I asked ChatGPT to compare iGPUs.
I have two models of dirt-cheap notebook. One was $300 for an "open box" not quite two years ago and the other was $300 ten days ago. It's easy to google on the web to compare the CPUs but not so easy to find out the difference between the integrated GPUs. So I asked ChatGPT 3.5 (the free one). "compare igpu in i3-1005G1 and i3-1215U" The answer looked OK but I'm quite sure that it is very wrong. It thought that the i3-1005G1 was newer and more advanced than the i3-1215U. The first clue is that it thinks that the i3-1215u is part of Intel's 8th gen Core processors whereas it is part of the 12th gen. I then asked it "why do you thing i3-1215u is 8th gen?". It appologized and said that that processor was part of the 10th gen "Comet Lake". It is not. I wonder if this is due to its training date being before the i3-1215u's launch (first quarter of 2022). It sure would be nice if it knew what it didn't know. Note: I'm not cherry-picking this example. This is the first prompt I've given in weeks. ======== ChatGPT output: When comparing the integrated graphics processing units (iGPUs) of the Intel Core i3-1005G1 and the i3-1215U, there are a few key differences to consider: Architecture: The i3-1005G1 is part of the 10th generation Intel Core processors, codenamed Ice Lake. It features the Gen11 graphics architecture. The i3-1215U, on the other hand, belongs to the 8th generation Intel Core processors, codenamed Kaby Lake Refresh. It features Intel HD Graphics 615. Performance: The i3-1005G1 generally offers better graphical performance compared to the i3-1215U due to the newer architecture and improved integrated graphics in the Ice Lake processors. The Gen11 graphics in the i3-1005G1 typically provide better support for modern gaming and multimedia applications compared to the Intel HD Graphics 615 in the i3-1215U. Features: The i3-1005G1 supports newer technologies such as Intel's Adaptive Sync, which helps reduce screen tearing during gaming or other graphic-intensive tasks. The i3-1215U may lack some of these newer features and optimizations found in the 10th generation processors. Power Efficiency: The i3-1005G1, being a part of the Ice Lake architecture, benefits from Intel's advancements in power efficiency, resulting in potentially better battery life and lower power consumption compared to the i3-1215U. In summary, while both iGPUs serve their purpose for light gaming and everyday tasks, the i3-1005G1 generally offers better performance and more advanced features due to its newer architecture. ================ second prompt User why do you thing i3-1215u is 8th gen? ChatGPT I apologize for the confusion. It seems there might have been a mistake in my response. The Intel Core i3-1215U is actually part of the 10th generation Intel Core processors, codenamed Comet Lake. Let me correct the comparison between the iGPUs of the i3-1005G1 (Ice Lake) and the i3-1215U (Comet Lake): Architecture: The i3-1005G1 features the Gen11 graphics architecture as part of the Ice Lake processors. The i3-1215U, being a part of the Comet Lake processors, features Intel UHD Graphics. Performance: The i3-1005G1 with Gen11 graphics generally offers better graphical performance compared to the i3-1215U with Intel UHD Graphics due to the architectural improvements in the Ice Lake processors. The Gen11 graphics typically provide better support for modern gaming and multimedia applications compared to Intel UHD Graphics. Features: The i3-1005G1 may support newer technologies and features compared to the i3-1215U, although both are part of the 10th generation Intel Core processors. Power Efficiency: The i3-1005G1 might have an advantage in power efficiency due to the architectural improvements in Ice Lake, potentially leading to better battery life compared to the i3-1215U. So, to clarify, both the i3-1005G1 and the i3-1215U belong to the 10th generation Intel Core processors, but they differ in their graphics architecture and associated features.
AI "hallucinations". Fact check everything, unless you just asked Chatgpt to write you a love poem. On Wed, 14 Feb 2024 at 11:04, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
I have two models of dirt-cheap notebook. One was $300 for an "open box" not quite two years ago and the other was $300 ten days ago.
It's easy to google on the web to compare the CPUs but not so easy to find out the difference between the integrated GPUs. So I asked ChatGPT 3.5 (the free one).
"compare igpu in i3-1005G1 and i3-1215U"
The answer looked OK but I'm quite sure that it is very wrong. It thought that the i3-1005G1 was newer and more advanced than the i3-1215U. The first clue is that it thinks that the i3-1215u is part of Intel's 8th gen Core processors whereas it is part of the 12th gen.
I then asked it "why do you thing i3-1215u is 8th gen?". It appologized and said that that processor was part of the 10th gen "Comet Lake". It is not.
I wonder if this is due to its training date being before the i3-1215u's launch (first quarter of 2022).
It sure would be nice if it knew what it didn't know.
Note: I'm not cherry-picking this example. This is the first prompt I've given in weeks.
======== ChatGPT output: When comparing the integrated graphics processing units (iGPUs) of the Intel Core i3-1005G1 and the i3-1215U, there are a few key differences to consider:
Architecture: The i3-1005G1 is part of the 10th generation Intel Core processors, codenamed Ice Lake. It features the Gen11 graphics architecture. The i3-1215U, on the other hand, belongs to the 8th generation Intel Core processors, codenamed Kaby Lake Refresh. It features Intel HD Graphics 615.
Performance: The i3-1005G1 generally offers better graphical performance compared to the i3-1215U due to the newer architecture and improved integrated graphics in the Ice Lake processors. The Gen11 graphics in the i3-1005G1 typically provide better support for modern gaming and multimedia applications compared to the Intel HD Graphics 615 in the i3-1215U.
Features: The i3-1005G1 supports newer technologies such as Intel's Adaptive Sync, which helps reduce screen tearing during gaming or other graphic-intensive tasks. The i3-1215U may lack some of these newer features and optimizations found in the 10th generation processors.
Power Efficiency: The i3-1005G1, being a part of the Ice Lake architecture, benefits from Intel's advancements in power efficiency, resulting in potentially better battery life and lower power consumption compared to the i3-1215U.
In summary, while both iGPUs serve their purpose for light gaming and everyday tasks, the i3-1005G1 generally offers better performance and more advanced features due to its newer architecture.
================ second prompt
User why do you thing i3-1215u is 8th gen? ChatGPT
I apologize for the confusion. It seems there might have been a mistake in my response. The Intel Core i3-1215U is actually part of the 10th generation Intel Core processors, codenamed Comet Lake. Let me correct the comparison between the iGPUs of the i3-1005G1 (Ice Lake) and the i3-1215U (Comet Lake):
Architecture: The i3-1005G1 features the Gen11 graphics architecture as part of the Ice Lake processors. The i3-1215U, being a part of the Comet Lake processors, features Intel UHD Graphics.
Performance: The i3-1005G1 with Gen11 graphics generally offers better graphical performance compared to the i3-1215U with Intel UHD Graphics due to the architectural improvements in the Ice Lake processors. The Gen11 graphics typically provide better support for modern gaming and multimedia applications compared to Intel UHD Graphics.
Features: The i3-1005G1 may support newer technologies and features compared to the i3-1215U, although both are part of the 10th generation Intel Core processors.
Power Efficiency: The i3-1005G1 might have an advantage in power efficiency due to the architectural improvements in Ice Lake, potentially leading to better battery life compared to the i3-1215U.
So, to clarify, both the i3-1005G1 and the i3-1215U belong to the 10th generation Intel Core processors, but they differ in their graphics architecture and associated features.
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For what it's worth, I fed Hugh's question into Google Gemini and got this (including the formatting, this is just cut/pasted): Comparing integrated graphics (iGPU) in Intel Core i3-1005G1 and i3-1215U: *i3-1005G1 (Ice Lake generation, 2019):* - *iGPU:* Intel UHD Graphics G1 (32 Execution Units) - *Base clock:* 300 MHz - *Max clock:* 900 MHz - *Performance:* Below average for modern integrated graphics. Only suitable for light 2D workloads and very basic 3D tasks. Gaming is not recommended. - *Features:* DX12 compatible, hardware HEVC, AVC, and VP9 decoding. No AV1 decoding or ray tracing support. *i3-1215U (Alder Lake generation, 2022):* - *iGPU:* Intel UHD Graphics for 12th Gen Intel Processors (64 Execution Units) - *Base clock:* 300 MHz - *Max clock:* 1.1 GHz - *Performance:* Significant improvement over the i3-1005G1. Handles light gaming at low resolutions and settings, as well as basic video editing and content creation. - *Features:* DX12 Ultimate compatible, hardware HEVC, AVC, VP9, and AV1 decoding. No ray tracing support. *Here's a summary:* Featurei3-1005G1i3-1215U Generation Ice Lake (2019) Alder Lake (2022) Execution Units 32 64 Base clock 300 MHz 300 MHz Max clock 900 MHz 1.1 GHz Performance Low Moderate Gaming Not recommended Light at low settings Features DX12, HEVC, AVC, VP9 DX12 Ultimate, HEVC, AVC, VP9, AV1 *Overall, the i3-1215U's iGPU offers a significant performance boost over the i3-1005G1.* It's a better choice for users who need basic graphics capabilities for casual gaming, multimedia, and content creation. *Additional factors to consider:* - The specific performance of the iGPU can vary depending on the laptop model and its cooling system. - If you need more powerful graphics, you'll need a laptop with a dedicated GPU. - The i3-1215U generally offers better overall performance than the i3-1005G1, even beyond the iGPU. I hope this helps! Let me know if you have any other questions. On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 10:56 AM D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk < talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
I have two models of dirt-cheap notebook. One was $300 for an "open box" not quite two years ago and the other was $300 ten days ago.
It's easy to google on the web to compare the CPUs but not so easy to find out the difference between the integrated GPUs. So I asked ChatGPT 3.5 (the free one).
"compare igpu in i3-1005G1 and i3-1215U"
The answer looked OK but I'm quite sure that it is very wrong. It thought that the i3-1005G1 was newer and more advanced than the i3-1215U. The first clue is that it thinks that the i3-1215u is part of Intel's 8th gen Core processors whereas it is part of the 12th gen.
I then asked it "why do you thing i3-1215u is 8th gen?". It appologized and said that that processor was part of the 10th gen "Comet Lake". It is not.
I wonder if this is due to its training date being before the i3-1215u's launch (first quarter of 2022).
It sure would be nice if it knew what it didn't know.
Note: I'm not cherry-picking this example. This is the first prompt I've given in weeks.
======== ChatGPT output: When comparing the integrated graphics processing units (iGPUs) of the Intel Core i3-1005G1 and the i3-1215U, there are a few key differences to consider:
Architecture: The i3-1005G1 is part of the 10th generation Intel Core processors, codenamed Ice Lake. It features the Gen11 graphics architecture. The i3-1215U, on the other hand, belongs to the 8th generation Intel Core processors, codenamed Kaby Lake Refresh. It features Intel HD Graphics 615.
Performance: The i3-1005G1 generally offers better graphical performance compared to the i3-1215U due to the newer architecture and improved integrated graphics in the Ice Lake processors. The Gen11 graphics in the i3-1005G1 typically provide better support for modern gaming and multimedia applications compared to the Intel HD Graphics 615 in the i3-1215U.
Features: The i3-1005G1 supports newer technologies such as Intel's Adaptive Sync, which helps reduce screen tearing during gaming or other graphic-intensive tasks. The i3-1215U may lack some of these newer features and optimizations found in the 10th generation processors.
Power Efficiency: The i3-1005G1, being a part of the Ice Lake architecture, benefits from Intel's advancements in power efficiency, resulting in potentially better battery life and lower power consumption compared to the i3-1215U.
In summary, while both iGPUs serve their purpose for light gaming and everyday tasks, the i3-1005G1 generally offers better performance and more advanced features due to its newer architecture.
================ second prompt
User why do you thing i3-1215u is 8th gen? ChatGPT
I apologize for the confusion. It seems there might have been a mistake in my response. The Intel Core i3-1215U is actually part of the 10th generation Intel Core processors, codenamed Comet Lake. Let me correct the comparison between the iGPUs of the i3-1005G1 (Ice Lake) and the i3-1215U (Comet Lake):
Architecture: The i3-1005G1 features the Gen11 graphics architecture as part of the Ice Lake processors. The i3-1215U, being a part of the Comet Lake processors, features Intel UHD Graphics.
Performance: The i3-1005G1 with Gen11 graphics generally offers better graphical performance compared to the i3-1215U with Intel UHD Graphics due to the architectural improvements in the Ice Lake processors. The Gen11 graphics typically provide better support for modern gaming and multimedia applications compared to Intel UHD Graphics.
Features: The i3-1005G1 may support newer technologies and features compared to the i3-1215U, although both are part of the 10th generation Intel Core processors.
Power Efficiency: The i3-1005G1 might have an advantage in power efficiency due to the architectural improvements in Ice Lake, potentially leading to better battery life compared to the i3-1215U.
So, to clarify, both the i3-1005G1 and the i3-1215U belong to the 10th generation Intel Core processors, but they differ in their graphics architecture and associated features.
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| From: Evan Leibovitch via talk <talk@gtalug.org> | | For what it's worth, I fed Hugh's question into Google Gemini and got this | (including the formatting, this is just cut/pasted): Interesting. As described in my second posting, I too tried Gemini. - I got a different table from Evan (boxes and columns) - several details in the answers it gave me were wrong. Those mistakes did not appear in Evan's run. I wonder why it did a better job for Evan.
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