<https://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msca/en_CA/pdp/ASUS-EeeBook-E402SA-UB03-BL-Signature-Edition-Laptop/productID.5083331100> Typical netbook, with twists Points of interest: ++ FullHD resolution (1920x1080). I don't know any other notebook with this kind of resolution under about $500. + $249.00 today (list price is $399.00) + if you collect AirMiles, and you go through the AirMiles site, you can get about $25 worth of AirMiles back + 4G RAM (2G seems standard in netbooks so this is very good) - 14", so larger and heavier than I'd like. But you might like the size. - 32 eMMC "disk". Small, but enough for a full Linux distro. Normal for netbooks due to Microsoft's licensing model. - slow but useable: "Intel Celeron N3060 1.60 GHz with Intel Burst Technology up to 2.48 GHz" Might have problems with the Linux/Atom bug I keep pointing at. + free delivery (and return). MicrosoftStore's policies are pretty good + comes with 64-bit Windows 10 so it must have 64-bit UEFI firmware. Makes Linux installation a lot easier. I bet that this can run Linux well, but I haven't tried it. Nor have I googled to find other's experiences.
I did some quick research and found this page: http://www.driversfree.org/en/drivers-catalog/drivers-for-notebooks/asus/ult... <http://www.driversfree.org/en/drivers-catalog/drivers-for-notebooks/asus/ultrabook-asus-eeebook-e402sa-download-drivers-for-windows-10-64-bit> which says, in part "Asus EeeBook E402SA is fully compatible with the operating system Linux.” So I took a chance and ordered one. I plan to install Ubuntu. Fingers crossed! Thanks for this tip! IB On 28-Nov-16, at 18:22, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote: <https://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msca/en_CA/pdp/ASUS-EeeBook-E402SA-UB03-BL-Signature-Edition-Laptop/productID.5083331100> Typical netbook, with twists Points of interest: ++ FullHD resolution (1920x1080). I don't know any other notebook with this kind of resolution under about $500. + $249.00 today (list price is $399.00) + if you collect AirMiles, and you go through the AirMiles site, you can get about $25 worth of AirMiles back + 4G RAM (2G seems standard in netbooks so this is very good) - 14", so larger and heavier than I'd like. But you might like the size. - 32 eMMC "disk". Small, but enough for a full Linux distro. Normal for netbooks due to Microsoft's licensing model. - slow but useable: "Intel Celeron N3060 1.60 GHz with Intel Burst Technology up to 2.48 GHz" Might have problems with the Linux/Atom bug I keep pointing at. + free delivery (and return). MicrosoftStore's policies are pretty good + comes with 64-bit Windows 10 so it must have 64-bit UEFI firmware. Makes Linux installation a lot easier. I bet that this can run Linux well, but I haven't tried it. Nor have I googled to find other's experiences. --- Talk Mailing List talk@gtalug.org https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk Irwin Barrer irwin@irwinb.com
| From: D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk <talk@gtalug.org> | <https://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msca/en_CA/pdp/ASUS-EeeBook-E402SA-UB03-BL-Signature-Edition-Laptop/productID.5083331100> (The deal is over.) I ended up thinking of a use for one of these and bought it. I learned: - it is easy to install Linux, replacing Win 10 on the eMMC "disk". It "just works" (wipe all partitions but the first; that will become /boot/efi). - before replacing Win 10, update the UEFI firmware. - before replacing Win 10, consider creating a "recovery disk" on a USB stick. - the touchpad is a little bit off and perhaps I should have updated the Win driver for it: it might contain updated firmware. On the other hand, the driver file is a year old so it probably came with my netebook - I think that there is room to install a 3.5" drive in the computer. (The computer came with the required mounting screws). This is a BIG bonus: it provides a bunch of interesting options. So it would be reasonable to add an SSD or HDD. This would provide sufficient space for leaving Win 10 and installing Linux on the added drive. This added load might shrink battery life.
I'd prefer to leave Windows as is. Have you tried booting Linux from SF card?-- William Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 2:22 AM, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk<talk@gtalug.org> wrote: | From: D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk <talk@gtalug.org> | <https://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msca/en_CA/pdp/ASUS-EeeBook-E402SA-UB03-BL-Signature-Edition-Laptop/productID.5083331100> (The deal is over.) I ended up thinking of a use for one of these and bought it. I learned: - it is easy to install Linux, replacing Win 10 on the eMMC "disk". It "just works" (wipe all partitions but the first; that will become /boot/efi). - before replacing Win 10, update the UEFI firmware. - before replacing Win 10, consider creating a "recovery disk" on a USB stick. - the touchpad is a little bit off and perhaps I should have updated the Win driver for it: it might contain updated firmware. On the other hand, the driver file is a year old so it probably came with my netebook - I think that there is room to install a 3.5" drive in the computer. (The computer came with the required mounting screws). This is a BIG bonus: it provides a bunch of interesting options. So it would be reasonable to add an SSD or HDD. This would provide sufficient space for leaving Win 10 and installing Linux on the added drive. This added load might shrink battery life. --- Talk Mailing List talk@gtalug.org https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
| From: William Park via talk <talk@gtalug.org> | To: D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk <talk@gtalug.org>, | GTALUG Talk <talk@gtalug.org> Everyone got two copies of this because you didn't notice that the list software rewrote my address to be the list address. Notice that it has happened to your "From:" address too. Of course rewriting my address is horrible, but it is forced on the list software by various big email hosts (eg. google) rejecting forwarded mail. Grrr. | I'd prefer to leave Windows as is. Have you tried booting Linux from SF card? No. It should work. But it is likely slower than the 32G eMMC "disk" built in. And likely less reliable. I have tried booting another tiny Win10 box off an SD card, and that failed. Some dumb limitation of the UEFI firmware. I have no idea how widespread that silly "feature" is. Windows used to refuse to install on a removable drive. This was apparently an anti-piracy measure. I think that with their new license verification process Microsoft has loosened that restriction. In any case, I have some cheap 3.5" drives laying about. If I had any plausible requirement for Windows on this box, or a need for more than 32G on linux, I would add a SATA drive to this netbook.
On Fri, Dec 09, 2016 at 11:56:16AM -0500, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote:
Everyone got two copies of this because you didn't notice that the list software rewrote my address to be the list address. Notice that it has happened to your "From:" address too.
Of course rewriting my address is horrible, but it is forced on the list software by various big email hosts (eg. google) rejecting forwarded mail.
Grrr.
No. It should work. But it is likely slower than the 32G eMMC "disk" built in. And likely less reliable.
I have tried booting another tiny Win10 box off an SD card, and that failed. Some dumb limitation of the UEFI firmware. I have no idea how widespread that silly "feature" is.
UEFI/BIOS in general probably doesn't include drivers for an SD card slot. SD USB card reader on the other hand ought to work since that is just a USB drive. Windows on the other hand by design doesn't support booting from such a thing. You need a more expensive license for that feature.
Windows used to refuse to install on a removable drive. This was apparently an anti-piracy measure. I think that with their new license verification process Microsoft has loosened that restriction.
No it is only supported for Windows-to-Go which I believe requires Windows Enterprise licensing.
In any case, I have some cheap 3.5" drives laying about. If I had any plausible requirement for Windows on this box, or a need for more than 32G on linux, I would add a SATA drive to this netbook.
-- Len Sorensen
Can you tell me more about this?: - I think that there is room to install a 3.5" drive in the computer. (The computer came with the required mounting screws). This is a BIG bonus: it provides a bunch of interesting options. So it would be reasonable to add an SSD or HDD. This would provide sufficient space for leaving Win 10 and installing Linux on the added drive. This added load might shrink battery life. — I would like to have more storage space—the 32GB drive seems kind of small. Have you determined if this is possible? If yes, is SSD a better way to go? From everything I’ve read it would seem so, but you mention both, so I would like your opinion. Lastly, where can I go do get this done for me? I’ve never done any kind of work (upgrades, repairs) on a computer myself so I would like to leave this to an expert. Many thanks. IB Irwin Barrer irwin@irwinb.com
On Fri, Jan 06, 2017 at 09:51:49AM -0500, Irwin Barrer via talk wrote:
Can you tell me more about this?:
- I think that there is room to install a 3.5" drive in the computer. (The computer came with the required mounting screws). This is a BIG bonus: it provides a bunch of interesting options. So it would be reasonable to add an SSD or HDD. This would provide sufficient space for leaving Win 10 and installing Linux on the added drive. This added load might shrink battery life.
Did you mean a 2.5" drive? 3.5" sounds unlikely. If this is the Asus E402SA, then according to http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/compatible-upgrade-for/ASUS/e402sa it is possible to install a 2.5" 9.5mm drive in it. I highly doubt it could handle a 12.5mm. https://www.ipc-computer.eu/notebook-ersatzteile/asus/notebook-e-serie/e402s... also says a 9.5mm drive can go in it. -- Len Sorensen
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