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Microsoft has certainly changed, since Bill & Steve left! http://www.techrepublic.com/article/windows-10-will-let-everyone-run-linux-inside-windows-following-fall-creators-update/?ftag=TRE684d531&bhid=12825460

On August 2, 2017 10:38:26 AM EDT, James Knott via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
Microsoft has certainly changed, since Bill & Steve left!
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I remember when Rasmus Lerdorf gave a talk to TLUG. Although a good part of it was Klingon, which I don't understand, he described how the PHP list got populated with what appeared to be a lot of M$ users asking questions. Their chatter eventualy died down and about a year later ASP appeared. If you are going to copy something, be sure to copy what works. I guess thats what Microsoft is really the best at. Copy right. Gives a whole new meaning to the word Copyright when you buy a linux distro at the windows app store. http://www.zdnet.com/article/why-microsoft-loves-linux/ -- Russell Sent by K-9 Mail

On Wed, Aug 02, 2017 at 11:23:05AM -0400, Stewart C. Russell via talk wrote:
And almost exactly two decades after Sun/Caldera killed Wabi - the Windows-16 Application Binary Interface for Solaris/Linux. Funny how things come around …
Remember when Linux had a layer to run x86 BSD binaries? Now freebsd can run linux binaries instead. I think it was called iBCS back in the day. http://www.skrenta.com/rt/man/iBCS.9.html -- Len Sorensen

On 02/08/17 11:44 AM, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote:
And almost exactly two decades after Sun/Caldera killed Wabi - the Windows-16 Application Binary Interface for Solaris/Linux. Funny how things come around … Remember when Linux had a layer to run x86 BSD binaries? Now freebsd can run linux binaries instead. I think it was called iBCS back in
On Wed, Aug 02, 2017 at 11:23:05AM -0400, Stewart C. Russell via talk wrote: the day.
Yes: intel defined a standard mechanism, which everyone did variations on. It was therefor to put in an "interpreter" for different OSs, where interpreter meant the code that interprets systems calls and dispatched them. I remember looking over Drew's shoulder at the code for SCO binaries. Solaris 86 had an interpreter for Linux, Linux an interpreter for Solaris 86. --dave -- David Collier-Brown, | Always do right. This will gratify System Programmer and Author | some people and astonish the rest davecb@spamcop.net | -- Mark Twain

And then there was this: the 86open project. https://web.archive.org/web/20010424134601/Www.telly.org/86open On Aug 2, 2017, 12:35, at 12:35, David Collier-Brown via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
On 02/08/17 11:44 AM, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote:
And almost exactly two decades after Sun/Caldera killed Wabi - the Windows-16 Application Binary Interface for Solaris/Linux. Funny how things come around … Remember when Linux had a layer to run x86 BSD binaries? Now freebsd can run linux binaries instead. I think it was called iBCS back in
On Wed, Aug 02, 2017 at 11:23:05AM -0400, Stewart C. Russell via talk wrote: the day.
Yes: intel defined a standard mechanism, which everyone did variations on. It was therefor to put in an "interpreter" for different OSs, where
interpreter meant the code that interprets systems calls and dispatched
them. I remember looking over Drew's shoulder at the code for SCO binaries. Solaris 86 had an interpreter for Linux, Linux an interpreter
for Solaris 86.
--dave
-- David Collier-Brown, | Always do right. This will gratify System Programmer and Author | some people and astonish the rest davecb@spamcop.net | -- Mark Twain
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Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote:
Remember when Linux had a layer to run x86 BSD binaries? Now freebsd can run linux binaries instead. I think it was called iBCS back in the day.
It was, and led to TLUG's finest moment, way back when Linux was new and there was only one book about it and O'Reilly sent the author (Matt Welsh, IIRC) on the speech circuit. He was standing up in Toronto and got to iBCS and how you could use a Linux system to run all your commercial Unix binaries and someone in the front row kept interrupting with minor corrections. Finally Matt got fed up and declared "_I_ wrote the book" to which Drew Sullivan replied, "And I wrote the kernel code!" -- Anthony de Boer

On 08/04/2017 11:00 PM, Anthony de Boer via talk wrote:
Remember when Linux had a layer to run x86 BSD binaries? Now freebsd can run linux binaries instead. I think it was called iBCS back in the day. It was, and led to TLUG's finest moment, way back when Linux was new and
Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote: there was only one book about it and O'Reilly sent the author (Matt Welsh, IIRC) on the speech circuit. He was standing up in Toronto and got to iBCS and how you could use a Linux system to run all your commercial Unix binaries and someone in the front row kept interrupting with minor corrections. Finally Matt got fed up and declared "_I_ wrote the book" to which Drew Sullivan replied, "And I wrote the kernel code!"
I remember that meeting and I still have my copy of the book "Running Linux", which Matt Welch autographed that night.
participants (7)
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Anthony de Boer
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David Collier-Brown
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Evan Leibovitch
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James Knott
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lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca
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Russell
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Stewart C. Russell