Hi folks, Hope you all are finding ways to feel creative. Wondering if anyone might have a suggestion providing a solution. Bell is my dsl provider, they also provide my land line and satellites service as well, but that is not the issue really. Because I still use analog phone service, its tied to some of my adaptive technology, my dsl modem / rooter combination provided by Bell is a tw or two wire model...or at least it was until this weekend. Honestly I am not a major user of data, but I do often need to connect more than one Ethernet setup, and require that someone using wireless be able to do this with little fanfare. Largely because none of bell's software works for my setup. anyway, the problem is that bell has replaced my beloved modem with one that causes my landline to click, as in makes a constant clicking noise whenever the modem is connected, which is all the time. What I am seeking is hopefully an older, but still to be found prospect, with several Ethernet ports the ability to connect wirelessly, yet being a tw model. My old one had stream in the title if that rings a..bell. I have literary had 5 technicians here since Saturday, with three of them messing up my Internet on top of not addressing the issue. Any bell modem ideas come to mind? why on earth by the way, must I only use bell equipment in the first place? Kare the ranter.
The modem shouldn't be making noise. Is the filter on the phone(s)? When you have ADSL on a phone line, filters are used to keep the phone and modems from interfering with each other. If that's not the problem, call Bell. Also, have you done any testing to ensure it's not something local? On 2020-10-08 10:38 p.m., Karen Lewellen via talk wrote:
Hi folks, Hope you all are finding ways to feel creative. Wondering if anyone might have a suggestion providing a solution. Bell is my dsl provider, they also provide my land line and satellites service as well, but that is not the issue really. Because I still use analog phone service, its tied to some of my adaptive technology, my dsl modem / rooter combination provided by Bell is a tw or two wire model...or at least it was until this weekend. Honestly I am not a major user of data, but I do often need to connect more than one Ethernet setup, and require that someone using wireless be able to do this with little fanfare. Largely because none of bell's software works for my setup. anyway, the problem is that bell has replaced my beloved modem with one that causes my landline to click, as in makes a constant clicking noise whenever the modem is connected, which is all the time. What I am seeking is hopefully an older, but still to be found prospect, with several Ethernet ports the ability to connect wirelessly, yet being a tw model. My old one had stream in the title if that rings a..bell. I have literary had 5 technicians here since Saturday, with three of them messing up my Internet on top of not addressing the issue. Any bell modem ideas come to mind? why on earth by the way, must I only use bell equipment in the first place? Kare the ranter.
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By filter, do you mean those little thingies one could put on the phone to prevent interference? When bell moved me here they claimed I did not need them, but I will dig one out to see if it helps. Bell techs have checked the lines to my apartment, the jack itself, and the cables being used. not sure what might be more local. The filter replacement is a fine idea. Kare On Thu, 8 Oct 2020, James Knott via talk wrote:
The modem shouldn't be making noise. Is the filter on the phone(s)? When you have ADSL on a phone line, filters are used to keep the phone and modems from interfering with each other. If that's not the problem, call Bell. Also, have you done any testing to ensure it's not something local?
On 2020-10-08 10:38 p.m., Karen Lewellen via talk wrote:
Hi folks, Hope you all are finding ways to feel creative. Wondering if anyone might have a suggestion providing a solution. Bell is my dsl provider, they also provide my land line and satellites service as well, but that is not the issue really. Because I still use analog phone service, its tied to some of my adaptive technology, my dsl modem / rooter combination provided by Bell is a tw or two wire model...or at least it was until this weekend. Honestly I am not a major user of data, but I do often need to connect more than one Ethernet setup, and require that someone using wireless be able to do this with little fanfare. Largely because none of bell's software works for my setup. anyway, the problem is that bell has replaced my beloved modem with one that causes my landline to click, as in makes a constant clicking noise whenever the modem is connected, which is all the time. What I am seeking is hopefully an older, but still to be found prospect, with several Ethernet ports the ability to connect wirelessly, yet being a tw model. My old one had stream in the title if that rings a..bell. I have literary had 5 technicians here since Saturday, with three of them messing up my Internet on top of not addressing the issue. Any bell modem ideas come to mind? why on earth by the way, must I only use bell equipment in the first place? Kare the ranter.
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Yes, you'd normally have one at each phone, unless one is wired in ahead of all the phones. That's common in business, but not sure about homes. On 2020-10-08 11:10 p.m., Karen Lewellen wrote:
By filter, do you mean those little thingies one could put on the phone to prevent interference? When bell moved me here they claimed I did not need them, but I will dig one out to see if it helps. Bell techs have checked the lines to my apartment, the jack itself, and the cables being used. not sure what might be more local. The filter replacement is a fine idea. Kare
On Thu, 8 Oct 2020, James Knott via talk wrote:
The modem shouldn't be making noise. Is the filter on the phone(s)? When you have ADSL on a phone line, filters are used to keep the phone and modems from interfering with each other. If that's not the problem, call Bell. Also, have you done any testing to ensure it's not something local?
On 2020-10-08 10:38 p.m., Karen Lewellen via talk wrote:
Hi folks, Hope you all are finding ways to feel creative. Wondering if anyone might have a suggestion providing a solution. Bell is my dsl provider, they also provide my land line and satellites service as well, but that is not the issue really. Because I still use analog phone service, its tied to some of my adaptive technology, my dsl modem / rooter combination provided by Bell is a tw or two wire model...or at least it was until this weekend. Honestly I am not a major user of data, but I do often need to connect more than one Ethernet setup, and require that someone using wireless be able to do this with little fanfare. Largely because none of bell's software works for my setup. anyway, the problem is that bell has replaced my beloved modem with one that causes my landline to click, as in makes a constant clicking noise whenever the modem is connected, which is all the time. What I am seeking is hopefully an older, but still to be found prospect, with several Ethernet ports the ability to connect wirelessly, yet being a tw model. My old one had stream in the title if that rings a..bell. I have literary had 5 technicians here since Saturday, with three of them messing up my Internet on top of not addressing the issue. Any bell modem ideas come to mind? why on earth by the way, must I only use bell equipment in the first place? Kare the ranter.
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On Thu, Oct 08, 2020 at 11:15:55PM -0400, James Knott via talk wrote:
Yes, you'd normally have one at each phone, unless one is wired in ahead of all the phones. That's common in business, but not sure about homes.
When I got VDSL2 installed, they put a splitter where it entered the house and ran one wire to the modem and the rest of the phone jacks in the house to the filtered side. So pretty common these days it seems. -- Len Sorensen
On Fri, 9 Oct 2020 at 09:35, Lennart Sorensen via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
When I got VDSL2 installed, they put a splitter where it entered the house and ran one wire to the modem and the rest of the phone jacks in the house to the filtered side.
The same for my mother's house, when recently upgraded from 6/1 to 15/10 speeds. (Although, I ran the separate wire for the modem myself in anticipation of the upgrade.) -- Scott
On 2020-10-09 10:00 a.m., Scott Allen via talk wrote:
On Fri, 9 Oct 2020 at 09:35, Lennart Sorensen via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
When I got VDSL2 installed, they put a splitter where it entered the house and ran one wire to the modem and the rest of the phone jacks in the house to the filtered side.
The same for my mother's house, when recently upgraded from 6/1 to 15/10 speeds. (Although, I ran the separate wire for the modem myself in anticipation of the upgrade.)
In my upgrade to VDSL2 at 15/10, Bell supplied an integrated splitter with an internal filter (marked "Comtest networks VDSL/2+"). I had terrible line quality and complained to teksavvy. Teksavvy got Bell involved who, promptly: - discovered I was missing "termination impedance's" at the DSLAM (red herring), - decided my cable was old, and replaced it (nope), - left my home one time without connecting my phone line to anything (after telling me he had fixed the problem and tested it!), - had 3 different Bell techs and two teksavvy techs at different times, - played games at the DSLAM adjusting my service profile. The last Bell guy was a pro and followed my DSL down the street to a broken overhead pod, where my cable was exposed to the elements! He fixed that and VDSL has been rock solid ever since. -- Michael Galea
Karen, I am on Primus for DSL and land line. This service comes in through Bell's phone lines. When I installed Primus' DSL modem, admittedly quite a few years ago, I was sent a filter for each of my connections. I have a 56K Hayes style modem, which does not work unless I turn off the DSL modem. Otherwise, everything works fine. On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 23:10:45 -0400 (EDT) Karen Lewellen via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
By filter, do you mean those little thingies one could put on the phone to prevent interference? When bell moved me here they claimed I did not need them, but I will dig one out to see if it helps. Bell techs have checked the lines to my apartment, the jack itself, and the cables being used. not sure what might be more local. The filter replacement is a fine idea. Kare
On Thu, 8 Oct 2020, James Knott via talk wrote:
The modem shouldn't be making noise. Is the filter on the phone(s)? When you have ADSL on a phone line, filters are used to keep the phone and modems from interfering with each other. If that's not the problem, call Bell. Also, have you done any testing to ensure it's not something local?
On 2020-10-08 10:38 p.m., Karen Lewellen via talk wrote:
Hi folks, Hope you all are finding ways to feel creative. Wondering if anyone might have a suggestion providing a solution. Bell is my dsl provider, they also provide my land line and satellites service as well, but that is not the issue really. Because I still use analog phone service, its tied to some of my adaptive technology, my dsl modem / rooter combination provided by Bell is a tw or two wire model...or at least it was until this weekend. Honestly I am not a major user of data, but I do often need to connect more than one Ethernet setup, and require that someone using wireless be able to do this with little fanfare. Largely because none of bell's software works for my setup. anyway, the problem is that bell has replaced my beloved modem with one that causes my landline to click, as in makes a constant clicking noise whenever the modem is connected, which is all the time. What I am seeking is hopefully an older, but still to be found prospect, with several Ethernet ports the ability to connect wirelessly, yet being a tw model. My old one had stream in the title if that rings a..bell. I have literary had 5 technicians here since Saturday, with three of them messing up my Internet on top of not addressing the issue. Any bell modem ideas come to mind? why on earth by the way, must I only use bell equipment in the first place? Kare the ranter.
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Hi folks, Hope you all are finding ways to feel creative. Wondering if anyone might have a suggestion providing a solution. I am assuming that your phone is powered and not an old style passive
On 10/8/20 10:38 PM, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote: line powered phone. If that is the case then it is possible that your getting interference from something other than the physical line. If you can try turning off the Bell WIFI and see if that affects your clicking. For my own case I never use a ISP provided modem in anything other than bridge mode and use my own equipment that I control for routing and firewalling.
Bell is my dsl provider, they also provide my land line and satellites service as well, but that is not the issue really. Because I still use analog phone service, its tied to some of my adaptive technology, my dsl modem / rooter combination provided by Bell is a tw or two wire model...or at least it was until this weekend. Honestly I am not a major user of data, but I do often need to connect more than one Ethernet setup, and require that someone using wireless be able to do this with little fanfare. Largely because none of bell's software works for my setup. anyway, the problem is that bell has replaced my beloved modem with one that causes my landline to click, as in makes a constant clicking noise whenever the modem is connected, which is all the time. What I am seeking is hopefully an older, but still to be found prospect, with several Ethernet ports the ability to connect wirelessly, yet being a tw model. My old one had stream in the title if that rings a..bell.
I have literary had 5 technicians here since Saturday, with three of them messing up my Internet on top of not addressing the issue. Any bell modem ideas come to mind? why on earth by the way, must I only use bell equipment in the first place? There is no obligation for you to use bell equipment. Bell cannot fix someone else's equipment so if you want a single point of repair then you may want to stick with Bell. I think Bell may still force you to pay for their modems as part of
Likely Speedstream. Bell provided Speedstream modems at one point but that was years ago and I have a hand full of them left from my ISP days. There are a hand full of alternate modem suppliers you can use but most times it is just cheaper to take the ISP provided one. Some can be purchased through places like CanadaComputers. their install service but in the past I just put the equipment on a shelf for return when I terminated the service. Providers like TekSavvy can provide landlines and internet usually at a price less than Bells. Most cannot provide satellite service but do offer TV over their internet service.
Kare the ranter.
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Alvin, Revisiting this issue with questions / comments in context. I am assuming that your phone is powered and not an old style passive line powered phone. This assumption is incorrect, my land line phone does not require electricity to run. If you can try turning off the Bell WIFI and see if that affects your clicking. When the bell modem is turned off, as in the power chord is disconnected, all clicking stops. It is only when the modem is plugged in, and only this particular series of modem that causes the problem. Likely Speedstream. Bell provided Speedstream modems at one point but that was years ago and I have a hand full of them left from my ISP days. Alvin, would you be willing to provide the models of the speedstream units you have? It is possible that I can get bell's accessibility department to buy your unit from you to address this issue. My land line phone, now a brand new one since a prior bell technician insisted my land line phone was the problem, is an adaptive technology device I use for which there is almost no other alternative. Every bell tech who has visited points out that they are stumped as to why the new modems, there are only two prospects, a 1000 and 3000 from the same maker, creates noise on my line. they have done everything both outside and inside without success. bell has not kept modem technology up to date that is inclusive, even while having an accessibility department. At the moment, buying yours may be the only real prospect we have, since I cannot physically use another land line phone. There are a hand full of alternate modem suppliers you can use but most times it is just cheaper to take the ISP provided one. I respect that, We may need to seek an alternative provider modem. If that happens, bell will be covering the costs, since this is an accommodation. I think Bell may still force you to pay for their modems as part of their install service but in the past I just put the equipment on a shelf for return when I terminated the service. Alvin, that at least gives me a bit of hope that those modems are still in good working order. While in theory I would have been charged for the modems, the cost was credited through bell accessibility. Providers like TekSavvy can provide landlines and internet usually at a price less than Bells. Techsavvy does not provide billing in alternative formats In fact when I left them, they were my ISP at some point, it was because I was over charged, but could not prove it since they refused to give me a bill in the alternative format I required. Most cannot provide satellite service but do offer TV over their internet service. I respect this may be an option for some, but speaking personally, it is out of the question for me based on how my experiences manifest. I lack the operating system, adaptive technology, equipment or platform for over the Internet television, that includes that provided by bell. Additionally, I lose access to the described video programming, audio description, which currently I get via bell's satellites service. bell makes this available and functional without the need for set top boxes themselves to be accessible. which is a terrific thing since no major service provider has fully accessible equipment for those experiencing a variety of disabilities. Prior to moving into my current apartment, I was a rogers cable customer. I spent almost my last year getting free service because of the several failures on their part, from lack of inclusive equipment to technicians who freaked at the sight of a person with a disability, to a few who took advantage by damaging my own home equipment, and other staff who could not correctly guide techs through the process of turning on audio description. Part of my professional life requires me to have access to a variety of news sources, some of which only exists over the air for me. I still smile when recalling the Rogers staffer who asked why I needed cable at all if I could not see the screen...not kidding. So, its bell satellites for me, and bell landline for me because as of yet, providing inclusive alternatives, and supporting those alternatives with accessible format billing is not a reality, CRTC standards making it a mandate since 2009 not withstanding. Therefore Alvin, if you still have any of that speedstream equipment, and are willing to sell it, I may be a buyer for you. Best, Karen
My modems are at my cottage but you are welcome to one without charge. It may be a few weeks before we get back up there with the new zombie apocalypse lock down. My suggestion is that your looking for an older modem that does not have any wireless capabilities at all. There may be someone on the list who has some older modems kicking around. I have to admit that I am surprised that Bell does not have non-wifi modems available. -- Alvin Starr || land: (647)478-6285 Netvel Inc. || Cell: (416)806-0133 alvin@netvel.net ||
Hi Alvin, The zombie Apocalypse comment made me laugh. I will ask bell for the exact speedstream model I desire replacing. That modem not only had 4 Ethernet ports, but wireless abilities as well. I, like you, are surprised bell has so few options. The aspect may be the two wire requirement feeding their limitation claim. cheers from the set of "the Walking zombie Apocalypse." On Thu, 14 Jan 2021, Alvin Starr wrote:
My modems are at my cottage but you are welcome to one without charge. It may be a few weeks before we get back up there with the new zombie apocalypse lock down.
My suggestion is that your looking for an older modem that does not have any wireless capabilities at all. There may be someone on the list who has some older modems kicking around.
I have to admit that I am surprised that Bell does not have non-wifi modems available.
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Hi again Alvin, everyone. My apologies it seems I provided the wrong bell modem brand etc. What i seek to replace is a 2wire home platform model 2701 hg-g gateway modem. As expressed, the unit supports wireless as well as having 4 Ethernet ports, and I think? but never used, a USB port as well. My google on the company indicates that 2wire was aquired by someone else. Any idea how to replace this unit? Happy Friday, Karen
On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 06:39:31PM -0500, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote:
When the bell modem is turned off, as in the power chord is disconnected, all clicking stops. It is only when the modem is plugged in, and only this particular series of modem that causes the problem.
Do you have DSL filters on all phone devices except the DSL modem? I would of course expect a Bell technician to have checked that. Of course a filter could have gone bad, but again I would expect them to have checked that. Certainly bad or missing DSL filters are the most common cause of noise on phones with DSL service active on the line.
My land line phone, now a brand new one since a prior bell technician insisted my land line phone was the problem, is an adaptive technology device I use for which there is almost no other alternative. Every bell tech who has visited points out that they are stumped as to why the new modems, there are only two prospects, a 1000 and 3000 from the same maker, creates noise on my line. they have done everything both outside and inside without success. bell has not kept modem technology up to date that is inclusive, even while having an accessibility department. At the moment, buying yours may be the only real prospect we have, since I cannot physically use another land line phone.
Sure does sound strange.
I respect that, We may need to seek an alternative provider modem. If that happens, bell will be covering the costs, since this is an accommodation.
Alvin, that at least gives me a bit of hope that those modems are still in good working order. While in theory I would have been charged for the modems, the cost was credited through bell accessibility.
Techsavvy does not provide billing in alternative formats In fact when I left them, they were my ISP at some point, it was because I was over charged, but could not prove it since they refused to give me a bill in the alternative format I required.
I guess they just send a PDF file in one standard format. I thought I had a dlink DSL modem around here somewhere I hadn't used in years, but I can't seem to think of which box I put it in. I don't think I gave it away, although who knows at this point. I should really sort my various computer parts better than random stuff in each box. Which speed of DSL is your service supposed to be since that affects the type of DSL modem it would require, as in ADSL, ADSL2 or VDSL. -- Len Sorensen
Simply placing answers at the top. One of the more amusing experiences with all these bell techs is their placing not just 1 but two filters. Not that it changed anything. While I am absolutely certain I do not have vdsl, there is little more I can claim. Fortifying my desire to find another 2wire brand model 2701 unit . I know it does not bother my land line. Oh and pdf is not considered an inclusive alternative format there are several options that can be provided, but pdf is not one of them. Thanks, Karen On Fri, 15 Jan 2021, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 06:39:31PM -0500, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote:
When the bell modem is turned off, as in the power chord is disconnected, all clicking stops. It is only when the modem is plugged in, and only this particular series of modem that causes the problem.
Do you have DSL filters on all phone devices except the DSL modem? I would of course expect a Bell technician to have checked that. Of course a filter could have gone bad, but again I would expect them to have checked that. Certainly bad or missing DSL filters are the most common cause of noise on phones with DSL service active on the line.
My land line phone, now a brand new one since a prior bell technician insisted my land line phone was the problem, is an adaptive technology device I use for which there is almost no other alternative. Every bell tech who has visited points out that they are stumped as to why the new modems, there are only two prospects, a 1000 and 3000 from the same maker, creates noise on my line. they have done everything both outside and inside without success. bell has not kept modem technology up to date that is inclusive, even while having an accessibility department. At the moment, buying yours may be the only real prospect we have, since I cannot physically use another land line phone.
Sure does sound strange.
I respect that, We may need to seek an alternative provider modem. If that happens, bell will be covering the costs, since this is an accommodation.
Alvin, that at least gives me a bit of hope that those modems are still in good working order. While in theory I would have been charged for the modems, the cost was credited through bell accessibility.
Techsavvy does not provide billing in alternative formats In fact when I left them, they were my ISP at some point, it was because I was over charged, but could not prove it since they refused to give me a bill in the alternative format I required.
I guess they just send a PDF file in one standard format.
I thought I had a dlink DSL modem around here somewhere I hadn't used in years, but I can't seem to think of which box I put it in. I don't think I gave it away, although who knows at this point. I should really sort my various computer parts better than random stuff in each box.
Which speed of DSL is your service supposed to be since that affects the type of DSL modem it would require, as in ADSL, ADSL2 or VDSL.
-- Len Sorensen
On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 08:01:00PM -0500, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote:
Simply placing answers at the top. One of the more amusing experiences with all these bell techs is their placing not just 1 but two filters. Not that it changed anything. While I am absolutely certain I do not have vdsl, there is little more I can claim. Fortifying my desire to find another 2wire brand model 2701 unit . I know it does not bother my land line. Oh and pdf is not considered an inclusive alternative format there are several options that can be provided, but pdf is not one of them.
Well as far as I can tell the 2701 is ADSL2 so I suspect that is what you have (I think that is 16 or 12 Mbit usually). So the 2wire was not a problem but the home hub 1000 and 3000 are causing the problem? And yes I can believe PDF isn't a good format for you. -- Len Sorensen
Indeed the 2wire 2701 was never a problem, with the home hub units, both editions causing the problem..both have been tried. because bell claims to have no more 2wire models, we are seeking our own. The standard for inclusion is not specific to me. Pdf files present problems for many populations, making the idea of providing alternative formats more of a buffet from which an individual can choose what they personally consider accessible. A shared label does not a shared accommodation make in any way shape or form. I have ways to deal with pdf files, but those ways are not consistent, even if more than some have to hand at all. Teksavvy at least when I was with them provided no choices whatsoever. thanks, Karen On Fri, 15 Jan 2021, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 08:01:00PM -0500, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote:
Simply placing answers at the top. One of the more amusing experiences with all these bell techs is their placing not just 1 but two filters. Not that it changed anything. While I am absolutely certain I do not have vdsl, there is little more I can claim. Fortifying my desire to find another 2wire brand model 2701 unit . I know it does not bother my land line. Oh and pdf is not considered an inclusive alternative format there are several options that can be provided, but pdf is not one of them.
Well as far as I can tell the 2701 is ADSL2 so I suspect that is what you have (I think that is 16 or 12 Mbit usually).
So the 2wire was not a problem but the home hub 1000 and 3000 are causing the problem?
And yes I can believe PDF isn't a good format for you.
-- Len Sorensen
On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 11:15:16PM -0500, Karen Lewellen wrote:
Indeed the 2wire 2701 was never a problem, with the home hub units, both editions causing the problem..both have been tried. because bell claims to have no more 2wire models, we are seeking our own.
I have a SmartRG SR505N (I think that's the model) that I am not currently using. That one does both VDSL and ADSL like the home hub, so it ought to support the same setup. It also has wifi, although I always have had that turned off along with the router capabilities since I use an separate router. Do you have a separate router or do you rely on the modem to also be the router and handle the PPPoE session?
The standard for inclusion is not specific to me. Pdf files present problems for many populations, making the idea of providing alternative formats more of a buffet from which an individual can choose what they personally consider accessible. A shared label does not a shared accommodation make in any way shape or form. I have ways to deal with pdf files, but those ways are not consistent, even if more than some have to hand at all. Teksavvy at least when I was with them provided no choices whatsoever.
I am not aware of Teksavvy offering any options now either. I get a PDF in an email once a month. -- Len Sorensen
On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 02:04:41PM -0500, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote:
I have a SmartRG SR505N (I think that's the model) that I am not currently using. That one does both VDSL and ADSL like the home hub, so it ought to support the same setup. It also has wifi, although I always have had that turned off along with the router capabilities since I use an separate router. Do you have a separate router or do you rely on the modem to also be the router and handle the PPPoE session?
Oh I just found my ADSL2+ modem in a box. Dlink DSL520B. You are welcome to give it a try if you want. No wifi nonsense on that one. -- Len Sorensen
Hi Len, Is this a bell supported device? I appreciate the offer, but since damaging my land line phone is a risk I cannot physically take, my first goal is to find an exact 2wire unit. I have no need for vdsl as stated. I have an absolute need to find something that lets me use my land line equipment safely, I use it for work, and lets my bell setup function at the same time. Given both home hug units malfunction, I would prefer not to guess, especially with a device requiring software that itself may not be accessible. I have never needed to separate rooter and wifi functions, so believe the answer to your question is no. What was amazing about the 2 wire unit is that without its own software, i could use my machines, while individuals involved with production using wireless could connect as well, no mess or mayhem. Profound thanks for the offer however! If teksavy is still not providing alternative billing, someone should report them to the crtc, its a violation . Cheers, Karen On Sat, 16 Jan 2021, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 11:15:16PM -0500, Karen Lewellen wrote:
Indeed the 2wire 2701 was never a problem, with the home hub units, both editions causing the problem..both have been tried. because bell claims to have no more 2wire models, we are seeking our own.
I have a SmartRG SR505N (I think that's the model) that I am not currently using. That one does both VDSL and ADSL like the home hub, so it ought to support the same setup. It also has wifi, although I always have had that turned off along with the router capabilities since I use an separate router. Do you have a separate router or do you rely on the modem to also be the router and handle the PPPoE session?
The standard for inclusion is not specific to me. Pdf files present problems for many populations, making the idea of providing alternative formats more of a buffet from which an individual can choose what they personally consider accessible. A shared label does not a shared accommodation make in any way shape or form. I have ways to deal with pdf files, but those ways are not consistent, even if more than some have to hand at all. Teksavvy at least when I was with them provided no choices whatsoever.
I am not aware of Teksavvy offering any options now either. I get a PDF in an email once a month.
-- Len Sorensen
On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 06:36:46PM -0500, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote:
Is this a bell supported device?
Well it was used with teksavvy on a bell line in the past.
I appreciate the offer, but since damaging my land line phone is a risk I cannot physically take, my first goal is to find an exact 2wire unit. I have no need for vdsl as stated. I have an absolute need to find something that lets me use my land line equipment safely, I use it for work, and lets my bell setup function at the same time. Given both home hug units malfunction, I would prefer not to guess, especially with a device requiring software that itself may not be accessible. I have never needed to separate rooter and wifi functions, so believe the answer to your question is no. What was amazing about the 2 wire unit is that without its own software, i could use my machines, while individuals involved with production using wireless could connect as well, no mess or mayhem. Profound thanks for the offer however!
OK so you were using the wifi and router ability of it. Well the dlink only does the router part, so that wouldn't be that helpful then.
If teksavy is still not providing alternative billing, someone should report them to the crtc, its a violation .
Well I don't know if they offer other options, I just know what I get from them, which is a PDF invoice each month. Well a search shows someone in Toronto on kijiji offering a 2wire 2701 for $10. https://www.kijiji.ca/v-computer-networking/city-of-toronto/dsl-modem-router... -- Len Sorensen
Thanks, If I can find a way to get around their access issues, and it is still available , that may be fine. have no issues buying a new one though, worth the investment for me. Wonder if Bell stores have a factory outlet? thanks for providing so much help, Karen On Sat, 16 Jan 2021, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 06:36:46PM -0500, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote:
Is this a bell supported device?
Well it was used with teksavvy on a bell line in the past.
I appreciate the offer, but since damaging my land line phone is a risk I cannot physically take, my first goal is to find an exact 2wire unit. I have no need for vdsl as stated. I have an absolute need to find something that lets me use my land line equipment safely, I use it for work, and lets my bell setup function at the same time. Given both home hug units malfunction, I would prefer not to guess, especially with a device requiring software that itself may not be accessible. I have never needed to separate rooter and wifi functions, so believe the answer to your question is no. What was amazing about the 2 wire unit is that without its own software, i could use my machines, while individuals involved with production using wireless could connect as well, no mess or mayhem. Profound thanks for the offer however!
OK so you were using the wifi and router ability of it. Well the dlink only does the router part, so that wouldn't be that helpful then.
If teksavy is still not providing alternative billing, someone should report them to the crtc, its a violation .
Well I don't know if they offer other options, I just know what I get from them, which is a PDF invoice each month.
Well a search shows someone in Toronto on kijiji offering a 2wire 2701 for $10. https://www.kijiji.ca/v-computer-networking/city-of-toronto/dsl-modem-router...
-- Len Sorensen
I believe I have two of these 2701 devices. Can't confirm until I go on location and look in the box. I have always felt these were under powered devices but hey if you want some then who am I to deny you. Isaac On 2021-01-16 7:32 p.m., Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote:
On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 06:36:46PM -0500, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote:
Is this a bell supported device? Well it was used with teksavvy on a bell line in the past.
I appreciate the offer, but since damaging my land line phone is a risk I cannot physically take, my first goal is to find an exact 2wire unit. I have no need for vdsl as stated. I have an absolute need to find something that lets me use my land line equipment safely, I use it for work, and lets my bell setup function at the same time. Given both home hug units malfunction, I would prefer not to guess, especially with a device requiring software that itself may not be accessible. I have never needed to separate rooter and wifi functions, so believe the answer to your question is no. What was amazing about the 2 wire unit is that without its own software, i could use my machines, while individuals involved with production using wireless could connect as well, no mess or mayhem. Profound thanks for the offer however! OK so you were using the wifi and router ability of it. Well the dlink only does the router part, so that wouldn't be that helpful then.
If teksavy is still not providing alternative billing, someone should report them to the crtc, its a violation . Well I don't know if they offer other options, I just know what I get from them, which is a PDF invoice each month.
Well a search shows someone in Toronto on kijiji offering a 2wire 2701 for $10. https://www.kijiji.ca/v-computer-networking/city-of-toronto/dsl-modem-router...
Isaac, I use DOS, how much power do i need? laughs. Better a device that works than one that prevents my working with the tools I use. Thanks in advance. Kare On Sat, 16 Jan 2021, Isaac Connor via talk wrote:
I believe I have two of these 2701 devices. Can't confirm until I go on location and look in the box.
I have always felt these were under powered devices but hey if you want some then who am I to deny you.
Isaac
On 2021-01-16 7:32 p.m., Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote:
On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 06:36:46PM -0500, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote:
Is this a bell supported device? Well it was used with teksavvy on a bell line in the past.
I appreciate the offer, but since damaging my land line phone is a risk I cannot physically take, my first goal is to find an exact 2wire unit. I have no need for vdsl as stated. I have an absolute need to find something that lets me use my land line equipment safely, I use it for work, and lets my bell setup function at the same time. Given both home hug units malfunction, I would prefer not to guess, especially with a device requiring software that itself may not be accessible. I have never needed to separate rooter and wifi functions, so believe the answer to your question is no. What was amazing about the 2 wire unit is that without its own software, i could use my machines, while individuals involved with production using wireless could connect as well, no mess or mayhem. Profound thanks for the offer however! OK so you were using the wifi and router ability of it. Well the dlink only does the router part, so that wouldn't be that helpful then.
If teksavy is still not providing alternative billing, someone should report them to the crtc, its a violation . Well I don't know if they offer other options, I just know what I get from them, which is a PDF invoice each month.
Well a search shows someone in Toronto on kijiji offering a 2wire 2701 for $10. https://www.kijiji.ca/v-computer-networking/city-of-toronto/dsl-modem-router...
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Alvin Starr -
Howard Gibson -
Isaac Connor -
James Knott -
Karen Lewellen -
lsorense＠csclub.uwaterloo.ca -
Michael Galea -
Scott Allen