ot: headphone jac replacement?
I might add during the current lock down? Here is the scoop The primary device i use as my computer's speech synthesizer source has a 3.5 inch headphone jack, which has been getting looser over the past week or so. While I had hoped to find a way to tighten it before a disconnect, that hoped was dashed this afternoon. I do have the jac, in fact I have a spare, what I am wondering though is a couple of things. first, if I want to try, or must try reattaching this myself, which tool do I need? screwdriver, or wrench?..or something else? If I want it done by someone else, for which I would happily pay even if moving the machine might be a dance, where in Toronto might I take it in for the work? In theory it is rather important, the replacement synthesizer is s slight fire risk, as its casing is broken around the plug in area for its adapter. Also, it sounds like it has a could, which may become frustrating as I use my computer rather a great deal these days. Ideas? Thanks, Karen
A headphone jack usually has left and right channels, plus a ground, so only 3 wires. You will need to take the device cover off, determine if one of the connections is loose/cracked. If the connection is loose or cracked then you resolder the joint and you're done. Check the connection with a multimeter. If the plug is worn out you will need to unsolder the 3 connections, remove the old (may be physically attached to the board/cover, reinstall the new plug to the board/cover, resolder the 3 wires, check connectivity with a multimeter. You will need: -tools to remove the cover: screwdrivers of all sorts, pry tool, depending on the cover. it does vary a lot -soldering iron, solder -replacement 3.5mm audio plug -multimeter: to check if the soldered joint is electrically connective. That's it. Don. On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 19:00, Karen Lewellen via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
I might add during the current lock down? Here is the scoop The primary device i use as my computer's speech synthesizer source has a 3.5 inch headphone jack, which has been getting looser over the past week or so. While I had hoped to find a way to tighten it before a disconnect, that hoped was dashed this afternoon. I do have the jac, in fact I have a spare, what I am wondering though is a couple of things. first, if I want to try, or must try reattaching this myself, which tool do I need? screwdriver, or wrench?..or something else? If I want it done by someone else, for which I would happily pay even if moving the machine might be a dance, where in Toronto might I take it in for the work? In theory it is rather important, the replacement synthesizer is s slight fire risk, as its casing is broken around the plug in area for its adapter. Also, it sounds like it has a could, which may become frustrating as I use my computer rather a great deal these days. Ideas? Thanks, Karen
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Okay, this is why I love the list. My description is clearly faulty. What I am speaking of is the circle connector into which you plug the headphone itself. as if, had I a really small hmm wrench? twisting it the other way would have kept the external port in place. The internals worked perfectly fine, I just cannot plug in the headphones because the external round connector is gone. Does that make better sense? Kare On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, Don Tai via talk wrote:
A headphone jack usually has left and right channels, plus a ground, so only 3 wires.
You will need to take the device cover off, determine if one of the connections is loose/cracked. If the connection is loose or cracked then you resolder the joint and you're done. Check the connection with a multimeter. If the plug is worn out you will need to unsolder the 3 connections, remove the old (may be physically attached to the board/cover, reinstall the new plug to the board/cover, resolder the 3 wires, check connectivity with a multimeter.
You will need: -tools to remove the cover: screwdrivers of all sorts, pry tool, depending on the cover. it does vary a lot -soldering iron, solder -replacement 3.5mm audio plug -multimeter: to check if the soldered joint is electrically connective.
That's it. Don.
On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 19:00, Karen Lewellen via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
I might add during the current lock down? Here is the scoop The primary device i use as my computer's speech synthesizer source has a 3.5 inch headphone jack, which has been getting looser over the past week or so. While I had hoped to find a way to tighten it before a disconnect, that hoped was dashed this afternoon. I do have the jac, in fact I have a spare, what I am wondering though is a couple of things. first, if I want to try, or must try reattaching this myself, which tool do I need? screwdriver, or wrench?..or something else? If I want it done by someone else, for which I would happily pay even if moving the machine might be a dance, where in Toronto might I take it in for the work? In theory it is rather important, the replacement synthesizer is s slight fire risk, as its casing is broken around the plug in area for its adapter. Also, it sounds like it has a could, which may become frustrating as I use my computer rather a great deal these days. Ideas? Thanks, Karen
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In that case, you could try to repair the broken bit with something moldable like sugaru (sp?) or another moldable plastic, but I would tend to go with Don's suggestion, as those parts are generally pretty disposable. On Tue., Apr. 20, 2021, 20:15 Karen Lewellen via talk, <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
Okay, this is why I love the list. My description is clearly faulty. What I am speaking of is the circle connector into which you plug the headphone itself. as if, had I a really small hmm wrench? twisting it the other way would have kept the external port in place. The internals worked perfectly fine, I just cannot plug in the headphones because the external round connector is gone. Does that make better sense? Kare
On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, Don Tai via talk wrote:
A headphone jack usually has left and right channels, plus a ground, so only 3 wires.
You will need to take the device cover off, determine if one of the connections is loose/cracked. If the connection is loose or cracked then you resolder the joint and you're done. Check the connection with a multimeter. If the plug is worn out you will need to unsolder the 3 connections, remove the old (may be physically attached to the board/cover, reinstall the new plug to the board/cover, resolder the 3 wires, check connectivity with a multimeter.
You will need: -tools to remove the cover: screwdrivers of all sorts, pry tool, depending on the cover. it does vary a lot -soldering iron, solder -replacement 3.5mm audio plug -multimeter: to check if the soldered joint is electrically connective.
That's it. Don.
On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 19:00, Karen Lewellen via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
I might add during the current lock down? Here is the scoop The primary device i use as my computer's speech synthesizer source has a 3.5 inch headphone jack, which has been getting looser over the past week or so. While I had hoped to find a way to tighten it before a disconnect, that hoped was dashed this afternoon. I do have the jac, in fact I have a spare, what I am wondering though is a couple of things. first, if I want to try, or must try reattaching this myself, which tool do I need? screwdriver, or wrench?..or something else? If I want it done by someone else, for which I would happily pay even if moving the machine might be a dance, where in Toronto might I take it in for the work? In theory it is rather important, the replacement synthesizer is s slight fire risk, as its casing is broken around the plug in area for its adapter. Also, it sounds like it has a could, which may become frustrating as I use my computer rather a great deal these days. Ideas? Thanks, Karen
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The thing about the other suggestions is that my personal experience of blindness makes some of those steps a bit risky. If I still have the external connector, its not broken, just came loose due to how much I use it, why cannot I just screw it in place again?. The port or jack is Entirely external to the machine. Its a talking scanner that looks a bit like a portable well copy machine. No idea if images exist on line but it is called the reading edge. Kare On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, William Witteman via talk wrote:
In that case, you could try to repair the broken bit with something moldable like sugaru (sp?) or another moldable plastic, but I would tend to go with Don's suggestion, as those parts are generally pretty disposable.
On Tue., Apr. 20, 2021, 20:15 Karen Lewellen via talk, <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
Okay, this is why I love the list. My description is clearly faulty. What I am speaking of is the circle connector into which you plug the headphone itself. as if, had I a really small hmm wrench? twisting it the other way would have kept the external port in place. The internals worked perfectly fine, I just cannot plug in the headphones because the external round connector is gone. Does that make better sense? Kare
On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, Don Tai via talk wrote:
A headphone jack usually has left and right channels, plus a ground, so only 3 wires.
You will need to take the device cover off, determine if one of the connections is loose/cracked. If the connection is loose or cracked then you resolder the joint and you're done. Check the connection with a multimeter. If the plug is worn out you will need to unsolder the 3 connections, remove the old (may be physically attached to the board/cover, reinstall the new plug to the board/cover, resolder the 3 wires, check connectivity with a multimeter.
You will need: -tools to remove the cover: screwdrivers of all sorts, pry tool, depending on the cover. it does vary a lot -soldering iron, solder -replacement 3.5mm audio plug -multimeter: to check if the soldered joint is electrically connective.
That's it. Don.
On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 19:00, Karen Lewellen via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
I might add during the current lock down? Here is the scoop The primary device i use as my computer's speech synthesizer source has a 3.5 inch headphone jack, which has been getting looser over the past week or so. While I had hoped to find a way to tighten it before a disconnect, that hoped was dashed this afternoon. I do have the jac, in fact I have a spare, what I am wondering though is a couple of things. first, if I want to try, or must try reattaching this myself, which tool do I need? screwdriver, or wrench?..or something else? If I want it done by someone else, for which I would happily pay even if moving the machine might be a dance, where in Toronto might I take it in for the work? In theory it is rather important, the replacement synthesizer is s slight fire risk, as its casing is broken around the plug in area for its adapter. Also, it sounds like it has a could, which may become frustrating as I use my computer rather a great deal these days. Ideas? Thanks, Karen
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A 3.5mm audio jack will have a ring that screws into the cylinder part of the jack. You plug you headphones into the jack. This ring is tightened against the side cover. Has this become loose? If this has loosened, then you could use some locktite to ensure it is tight. An issue is that when the audio jack becomes loose, it might stress the 3 wires and stop working. Apart from the looseness of the jack, can you hear the left and right channel audio? Do you have a Xerox "Kurzweil Reading Edge Optical Recognition Speech Synthesizer," 1992? Don On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 20:33, Karen Lewellen via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
The thing about the other suggestions is that my personal experience of blindness makes some of those steps a bit risky. If I still have the external connector, its not broken, just came loose due to how much I use it, why cannot I just screw it in place again?. The port or jack is Entirely external to the machine. Its a talking scanner that looks a bit like a portable well copy machine. No idea if images exist on line but it is called the reading edge. Kare
On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, William Witteman via talk wrote:
In that case, you could try to repair the broken bit with something moldable like sugaru (sp?) or another moldable plastic, but I would tend to go with Don's suggestion, as those parts are generally pretty disposable.
On Tue., Apr. 20, 2021, 20:15 Karen Lewellen via talk, <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
Okay, this is why I love the list. My description is clearly faulty. What I am speaking of is the circle connector into which you plug the headphone itself. as if, had I a really small hmm wrench? twisting it the other way would have kept the external port in place. The internals worked perfectly fine, I just cannot plug in the headphones because the external round connector is gone. Does that make better sense? Kare
On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, Don Tai via talk wrote:
A headphone jack usually has left and right channels, plus a ground, so only 3 wires.
You will need to take the device cover off, determine if one of the connections is loose/cracked. If the connection is loose or cracked then you resolder the joint and you're done. Check the connection with a multimeter. If the plug is worn out you will need to unsolder the 3 connections, remove the old (may be physically attached to the board/cover, reinstall the new plug to the board/cover, resolder the 3 wires, check connectivity with a multimeter.
You will need: -tools to remove the cover: screwdrivers of all sorts, pry tool, depending on the cover. it does vary a lot -soldering iron, solder -replacement 3.5mm audio plug -multimeter: to check if the soldered joint is electrically connective.
That's it. Don.
On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 19:00, Karen Lewellen via talk <talk@gtalug.org
wrote:
I might add during the current lock down? Here is the scoop The primary device i use as my computer's speech synthesizer source has a 3.5 inch headphone jack, which has been getting looser over the past week or so. While I had hoped to find a way to tighten it before a disconnect, that hoped was dashed this afternoon. I do have the jac, in fact I have a spare, what I am wondering though is a couple of things. first, if I want to try, or must try reattaching this myself, which tool do I need? screwdriver, or wrench?..or something else? If I want it done by someone else, for which I would happily pay even if moving the machine might be a dance, where in Toronto might I take it in for the work? In theory it is rather important, the replacement synthesizer is s slight fire risk, as its casing is broken around the plug in area for its adapter. Also, it sounds like it has a could, which may become frustrating as I use my computer rather a great deal these days. Ideas? Thanks, Karen
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Xerox "Kurzweil Reading Edge Optical Recognition Speech Synthesizer," https://www.thehenryford.org/collections-and-research/digital-collections/ar... On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 20:50, Don Tai <dontai.canada@gmail.com> wrote:
A 3.5mm audio jack will have a ring that screws into the cylinder part of the jack. You plug you headphones into the jack. This ring is tightened against the side cover. Has this become loose? If this has loosened, then you could use some locktite to ensure it is tight.
An issue is that when the audio jack becomes loose, it might stress the 3 wires and stop working. Apart from the looseness of the jack, can you hear the left and right channel audio?
Do you have a Xerox "Kurzweil Reading Edge Optical Recognition Speech Synthesizer," 1992?
Don
On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 20:33, Karen Lewellen via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
The thing about the other suggestions is that my personal experience of blindness makes some of those steps a bit risky. If I still have the external connector, its not broken, just came loose due to how much I use it, why cannot I just screw it in place again?. The port or jack is Entirely external to the machine. Its a talking scanner that looks a bit like a portable well copy machine. No idea if images exist on line but it is called the reading edge. Kare
On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, William Witteman via talk wrote:
In that case, you could try to repair the broken bit with something moldable like sugaru (sp?) or another moldable plastic, but I would tend to go with Don's suggestion, as those parts are generally pretty disposable.
On Tue., Apr. 20, 2021, 20:15 Karen Lewellen via talk, <talk@gtalug.org
wrote:
Okay, this is why I love the list. My description is clearly faulty. What I am speaking of is the circle connector into which you plug the headphone itself. as if, had I a really small hmm wrench? twisting it the other way would have kept the external port in place. The internals worked perfectly fine, I just cannot plug in the headphones because the external round connector is gone. Does that make better sense? Kare
On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, Don Tai via talk wrote:
A headphone jack usually has left and right channels, plus a ground, so only 3 wires.
You will need to take the device cover off, determine if one of the connections is loose/cracked. If the connection is loose or cracked then you resolder the joint and you're done. Check the connection with a multimeter. If the plug is worn out you will need to unsolder the 3 connections, remove the old (may be physically attached to the board/cover, reinstall the new plug to the board/cover, resolder the 3 wires, check connectivity with a multimeter.
You will need: -tools to remove the cover: screwdrivers of all sorts, pry tool, depending on the cover. it does vary a lot -soldering iron, solder -replacement 3.5mm audio plug -multimeter: to check if the soldered joint is electrically connective.
That's it. Don.
On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 19:00, Karen Lewellen via talk < talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
I might add during the current lock down? Here is the scoop The primary device i use as my computer's speech synthesizer source has a 3.5 inch headphone jack, which has been getting looser over the past week or so. While I had hoped to find a way to tighten it before a disconnect, that hoped was dashed this afternoon. I do have the jac, in fact I have a spare, what I am wondering though is a couple of things. first, if I want to try, or must try reattaching this myself, which tool do I need? screwdriver, or wrench?..or something else? If I want it done by someone else, for which I would happily pay even if moving the machine might be a dance, where in Toronto might I take it in for the work? In theory it is rather important, the replacement synthesizer is s slight fire risk, as its casing is broken around the plug in area for its adapter. Also, it sounds like it has a could, which may become frustrating as I use my computer rather a great deal these days. Ideas? Thanks, Karen
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Yes, this is the one. On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, Don Tai wrote:
Xerox "Kurzweil Reading Edge Optical Recognition Speech Synthesizer," https://www.thehenryford.org/collections-and-research/digital-collections/ar...
On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 20:50, Don Tai <dontai.canada@gmail.com> wrote:
A 3.5mm audio jack will have a ring that screws into the cylinder part of the jack. You plug you headphones into the jack. This ring is tightened against the side cover. Has this become loose? If this has loosened, then you could use some locktite to ensure it is tight.
An issue is that when the audio jack becomes loose, it might stress the 3 wires and stop working. Apart from the looseness of the jack, can you hear the left and right channel audio?
Do you have a Xerox "Kurzweil Reading Edge Optical Recognition Speech Synthesizer," 1992?
Don
On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 20:33, Karen Lewellen via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
The thing about the other suggestions is that my personal experience of blindness makes some of those steps a bit risky. If I still have the external connector, its not broken, just came loose due to how much I use it, why cannot I just screw it in place again?. The port or jack is Entirely external to the machine. Its a talking scanner that looks a bit like a portable well copy machine. No idea if images exist on line but it is called the reading edge. Kare
On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, William Witteman via talk wrote:
In that case, you could try to repair the broken bit with something moldable like sugaru (sp?) or another moldable plastic, but I would tend to go with Don's suggestion, as those parts are generally pretty disposable.
On Tue., Apr. 20, 2021, 20:15 Karen Lewellen via talk, <talk@gtalug.org
wrote:
Okay, this is why I love the list. My description is clearly faulty. What I am speaking of is the circle connector into which you plug the headphone itself. as if, had I a really small hmm wrench? twisting it the other way would have kept the external port in place. The internals worked perfectly fine, I just cannot plug in the headphones because the external round connector is gone. Does that make better sense? Kare
On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, Don Tai via talk wrote:
A headphone jack usually has left and right channels, plus a ground, so only 3 wires.
You will need to take the device cover off, determine if one of the connections is loose/cracked. If the connection is loose or cracked then you resolder the joint and you're done. Check the connection with a multimeter. If the plug is worn out you will need to unsolder the 3 connections, remove the old (may be physically attached to the board/cover, reinstall the new plug to the board/cover, resolder the 3 wires, check connectivity with a multimeter.
You will need: -tools to remove the cover: screwdrivers of all sorts, pry tool, depending on the cover. it does vary a lot -soldering iron, solder -replacement 3.5mm audio plug -multimeter: to check if the soldered joint is electrically connective.
That's it. Don.
On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 19:00, Karen Lewellen via talk < talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
> I might add during the current lock down? > Here is the scoop > The primary device i use as my computer's speech synthesizer source has a > 3.5 inch headphone jack, which has been getting looser over the past week > or so. > While I had hoped to find a way to tighten it before a disconnect, that > hoped was dashed this afternoon. > I do have the jac, in fact I have a spare, what I am wondering though is a > couple of things. > first, if I want to try, or must try reattaching this myself, which tool > do I need? screwdriver, or wrench?..or something else? > If I want it done by someone else, for which I would happily pay even if > moving the machine might be a dance, where in Toronto might I take it in > for the work? > In theory it is rather important, the replacement synthesizer is s slight > fire risk, as its casing is broken around the plug in area for its > adapter. > Also, it sounds like it has a could, which may become frustrating as I use > my computer rather a great deal these days. > Ideas? > Thanks, > Karen > > > --- > Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org > Unsubscribe from this mailing list > https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk >
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Indeed the ring became loose, and this afternoon fell off all together. i was getting stereo just find until the ring fell off. what is loosekite? your description sounds about right if the unit has a small keypad attached to the front right. Is there anywhere I could take the unit to get the ring reconnected? Karen On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, Don Tai wrote:
A 3.5mm audio jack will have a ring that screws into the cylinder part of the jack. You plug you headphones into the jack. This ring is tightened against the side cover. Has this become loose? If this has loosened, then you could use some locktite to ensure it is tight.
An issue is that when the audio jack becomes loose, it might stress the 3 wires and stop working. Apart from the looseness of the jack, can you hear the left and right channel audio?
Do you have a Xerox "Kurzweil Reading Edge Optical Recognition Speech Synthesizer," 1992?
Don
On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 20:33, Karen Lewellen via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
The thing about the other suggestions is that my personal experience of blindness makes some of those steps a bit risky. If I still have the external connector, its not broken, just came loose due to how much I use it, why cannot I just screw it in place again?. The port or jack is Entirely external to the machine. Its a talking scanner that looks a bit like a portable well copy machine. No idea if images exist on line but it is called the reading edge. Kare
On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, William Witteman via talk wrote:
In that case, you could try to repair the broken bit with something moldable like sugaru (sp?) or another moldable plastic, but I would tend to go with Don's suggestion, as those parts are generally pretty disposable.
On Tue., Apr. 20, 2021, 20:15 Karen Lewellen via talk, <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
Okay, this is why I love the list. My description is clearly faulty. What I am speaking of is the circle connector into which you plug the headphone itself. as if, had I a really small hmm wrench? twisting it the other way would have kept the external port in place. The internals worked perfectly fine, I just cannot plug in the headphones because the external round connector is gone. Does that make better sense? Kare
On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, Don Tai via talk wrote:
A headphone jack usually has left and right channels, plus a ground, so only 3 wires.
You will need to take the device cover off, determine if one of the connections is loose/cracked. If the connection is loose or cracked then you resolder the joint and you're done. Check the connection with a multimeter. If the plug is worn out you will need to unsolder the 3 connections, remove the old (may be physically attached to the board/cover, reinstall the new plug to the board/cover, resolder the 3 wires, check connectivity with a multimeter.
You will need: -tools to remove the cover: screwdrivers of all sorts, pry tool, depending on the cover. it does vary a lot -soldering iron, solder -replacement 3.5mm audio plug -multimeter: to check if the soldered joint is electrically connective.
That's it. Don.
On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 19:00, Karen Lewellen via talk <talk@gtalug.org
wrote:
I might add during the current lock down? Here is the scoop The primary device i use as my computer's speech synthesizer source has a 3.5 inch headphone jack, which has been getting looser over the past week or so. While I had hoped to find a way to tighten it before a disconnect, that hoped was dashed this afternoon. I do have the jac, in fact I have a spare, what I am wondering though is a couple of things. first, if I want to try, or must try reattaching this myself, which tool do I need? screwdriver, or wrench?..or something else? If I want it done by someone else, for which I would happily pay even if moving the machine might be a dance, where in Toronto might I take it in for the work? In theory it is rather important, the replacement synthesizer is s slight fire risk, as its casing is broken around the plug in area for its adapter. Also, it sounds like it has a could, which may become frustrating as I use my computer rather a great deal these days. Ideas? Thanks, Karen
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If you still have the ring you can thread it back on. Locktite is a liquid that you put on the threads, that when it dries it makes it more difficult for the ring to loosen and come off. Without the ring the 3.5mm audio jack might get pushed inside the box, which would mean you'd need to open the box back up to push it back through the hole. Do you still have the ring? The Xerox "Kurzweil Reading Edge Optical Recognition Speech Synthesizer," has a separate keyboard on the right side, with yellow and white keys. The keyboard is attached to the main unit by a curly cable. You can get someone to retighten the ring, if you still have it, and see if the stereo sound comes back. Otherwise you might need to replace the audio jack for a new one, which means opening up the box and possibly soldering. This is easier than it sounds. Don On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 21:39, Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net> wrote:
Indeed the ring became loose, and this afternoon fell off all together. i was getting stereo just find until the ring fell off. what is loosekite? your description sounds about right if the unit has a small keypad attached to the front right. Is there anywhere I could take the unit to get the ring reconnected? Karen
On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, Don Tai wrote:
A 3.5mm audio jack will have a ring that screws into the cylinder part of the jack. You plug you headphones into the jack. This ring is tightened against the side cover. Has this become loose? If this has loosened, then you could use some locktite to ensure it is tight.
An issue is that when the audio jack becomes loose, it might stress the 3 wires and stop working. Apart from the looseness of the jack, can you hear the left and right channel audio?
Do you have a Xerox "Kurzweil Reading Edge Optical Recognition Speech Synthesizer," 1992?
Don
On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 20:33, Karen Lewellen via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
The thing about the other suggestions is that my personal experience of blindness makes some of those steps a bit risky. If I still have the external connector, its not broken, just came loose due to how much I use it, why cannot I just screw it in place again?. The port or jack is Entirely external to the machine. Its a talking scanner that looks a bit like a portable well copy machine. No idea if images exist on line but it is called the reading edge. Kare
On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, William Witteman via talk wrote:
In that case, you could try to repair the broken bit with something moldable like sugaru (sp?) or another moldable plastic, but I would tend to go with Don's suggestion, as those parts are generally pretty disposable.
On Tue., Apr. 20, 2021, 20:15 Karen Lewellen via talk, < talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
Okay, this is why I love the list. My description is clearly faulty. What I am speaking of is the circle connector into which you plug the headphone itself. as if, had I a really small hmm wrench? twisting it the other way would have kept the external port in place. The internals worked perfectly fine, I just cannot plug in the headphones because the external round connector is gone. Does that make better sense? Kare
On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, Don Tai via talk wrote:
A headphone jack usually has left and right channels, plus a ground, so only 3 wires.
You will need to take the device cover off, determine if one of the connections is loose/cracked. If the connection is loose or cracked then you resolder the joint and you're done. Check the connection with a multimeter. If the plug is worn out you will need to unsolder the 3 connections, remove the old (may be physically attached to the board/cover, reinstall the new plug to the board/cover, resolder the 3 wires, check connectivity with a multimeter.
You will need: -tools to remove the cover: screwdrivers of all sorts, pry tool, depending on the cover. it does vary a lot -soldering iron, solder -replacement 3.5mm audio plug -multimeter: to check if the soldered joint is electrically connective.
That's it. Don.
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wrote:
> I might add during the current lock down? > Here is the scoop > The primary device i use as my computer's speech synthesizer source has a > 3.5 inch headphone jack, which has been getting looser over the past week > or so. > While I had hoped to find a way to tighten it before a disconnect, that > hoped was dashed this afternoon. > I do have the jac, in fact I have a spare, what I am wondering though is a > couple of things. > first, if I want to try, or must try reattaching this myself, which tool > do I need? screwdriver, or wrench?..or something else? > If I want it done by someone else, for which I would happily pay even if > moving the machine might be a dance, where in Toronto might I take it in > for the work? > In theory it is rather important, the replacement synthesizer is s slight > fire risk, as its casing is broken around the plug in area for its > adapter. > Also, it sounds like it has a could, which may become frustrating as I use > my computer rather a great deal these days. > Ideas? > Thanks, > Karen > > > --- > Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org > Unsubscribe from this mailing list > https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk >
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I have the ring. I even have more than one. so you put this liquid on the ring and it sticks in place? Where do I get this product? On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, Don Tai wrote:
If you still have the ring you can thread it back on. Locktite is a liquid that you put on the threads, that when it dries it makes it more difficult for the ring to loosen and come off. Without the ring the 3.5mm audio jack might get pushed inside the box, which would mean you'd need to open the box back up to push it back through the hole.
Do you still have the ring?
The Xerox "Kurzweil Reading Edge Optical Recognition Speech Synthesizer," has a separate keyboard on the right side, with yellow and white keys. The keyboard is attached to the main unit by a curly cable.
You can get someone to retighten the ring, if you still have it, and see if the stereo sound comes back. Otherwise you might need to replace the audio jack for a new one, which means opening up the box and possibly soldering. This is easier than it sounds.
Don
On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 21:39, Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net> wrote:
Indeed the ring became loose, and this afternoon fell off all together. i was getting stereo just find until the ring fell off. what is loosekite? your description sounds about right if the unit has a small keypad attached to the front right. Is there anywhere I could take the unit to get the ring reconnected? Karen
On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, Don Tai wrote:
A 3.5mm audio jack will have a ring that screws into the cylinder part of the jack. You plug you headphones into the jack. This ring is tightened against the side cover. Has this become loose? If this has loosened, then you could use some locktite to ensure it is tight.
An issue is that when the audio jack becomes loose, it might stress the 3 wires and stop working. Apart from the looseness of the jack, can you hear the left and right channel audio?
Do you have a Xerox "Kurzweil Reading Edge Optical Recognition Speech Synthesizer," 1992?
Don
On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 20:33, Karen Lewellen via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
The thing about the other suggestions is that my personal experience of blindness makes some of those steps a bit risky. If I still have the external connector, its not broken, just came loose due to how much I use it, why cannot I just screw it in place again?. The port or jack is Entirely external to the machine. Its a talking scanner that looks a bit like a portable well copy machine. No idea if images exist on line but it is called the reading edge. Kare
On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, William Witteman via talk wrote:
In that case, you could try to repair the broken bit with something moldable like sugaru (sp?) or another moldable plastic, but I would tend to go with Don's suggestion, as those parts are generally pretty disposable.
On Tue., Apr. 20, 2021, 20:15 Karen Lewellen via talk, < talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
Okay, this is why I love the list. My description is clearly faulty. What I am speaking of is the circle connector into which you plug the headphone itself. as if, had I a really small hmm wrench? twisting it the other way would have kept the external port in place. The internals worked perfectly fine, I just cannot plug in the headphones because the external round connector is gone. Does that make better sense? Kare
On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, Don Tai via talk wrote:
> A headphone jack usually has left and right channels, plus a ground, so > only 3 wires. > > You will need to take the device cover off, determine if one of the > connections is loose/cracked. If the connection is loose or cracked then > you resolder the joint and you're done. Check the connection with a > multimeter. If the plug is worn out you will need to unsolder the 3 > connections, remove the old (may be physically attached to the board/cover, > reinstall the new plug to the board/cover, resolder the 3 wires, check > connectivity with a multimeter. > > You will need: > -tools to remove the cover: screwdrivers of all sorts, pry tool, depending > on the cover. it does vary a lot > -soldering iron, solder > -replacement 3.5mm audio plug > -multimeter: to check if the soldered joint is electrically connective. > > That's it. > Don. > > On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 19:00, Karen Lewellen via talk < talk@gtalug.org
> wrote: > >> I might add during the current lock down? >> Here is the scoop >> The primary device i use as my computer's speech synthesizer source has a >> 3.5 inch headphone jack, which has been getting looser over the past week >> or so. >> While I had hoped to find a way to tighten it before a disconnect, that >> hoped was dashed this afternoon. >> I do have the jac, in fact I have a spare, what I am wondering though is a >> couple of things. >> first, if I want to try, or must try reattaching this myself, which tool >> do I need? screwdriver, or wrench?..or something else? >> If I want it done by someone else, for which I would happily pay even if >> moving the machine might be a dance, where in Toronto might I take it in >> for the work? >> In theory it is rather important, the replacement synthesizer is s slight >> fire risk, as its casing is broken around the plug in area for its >> adapter. >> Also, it sounds like it has a could, which may become frustrating as I use >> my computer rather a great deal these days. >> Ideas? >> Thanks, >> Karen >> >> >> --- >> Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org >> Unsubscribe from this mailing list >> https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk >> > --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
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i feel better that i can place some of the locktite on the ring, then put it into position. Will seek it at walmart or Home depot. On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, James Knott via talk wrote:
On 2021-04-20 10:31 p.m., Karen Lewellen via talk wrote:
I have the ring. I even have more than one. so you put this liquid on the ring and it sticks in place? Where do I get this product?
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Karen, I am a mechanical designer and drafter. I am an engineering technologist, certified by OACETT (http://oacett.org). Ask about threadlockers in the hardware store. The really popular one is Loctite 242, which is a lubricating, medium strength threadlocker which is blue in colour. This is very nice stuff for mechanical assembly. The lubrication gives you better control over tightening torque, which is really cool if you are using a torque wrench. :) Alternate threadlockers can be sealing or wicking. Wicking might be very nice for you, but you probably won't find this stuff in a regular store. Most threadlockers are based on Military Standard MIL-S-46163A, and several manufacturers make equivalent, compliant stuff. The colours are part of the standard. Purple is low strength, blue is medium, and red is high strength. The blue, medium strength is good. The red, high strength is difficult to remove without damaging things. The regular Loctite threadlockers can be very nasty around plastic electronics like connectors and PCB components. Be very, very careful to apply it only to metal components. I have had some nasty experiences with this. Consider usng Krazy glue, and wicking it into the thread. If you don't glue your fingers together, you should be fine. Look for a thin cyanoacrylate glue. The thick, goopy stuff won't wick. On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 23:30:21 -0400 (EDT) Karen Lewellen via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
i feel better that i can place some of the locktite on the ring, then put it into position. Will seek it at walmart or Home depot.
On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, James Knott via talk wrote:
On 2021-04-20 10:31 p.m., Karen Lewellen via talk wrote:
I have the ring. I even have more than one. so you put this liquid on the ring and it sticks in place? Where do I get this product?
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Okay Howard. Explain how you would tell these apart if blind? What does your engineering background, since you reference here, teach you about working via touch alone? That is my situation here. I must be able to safely apply this, without seeing its shade onto an extremely small space. Or, I can take this scanner and this ring to a business and pay someone to replace the ring. if so, where? Karen On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, Howard Gibson via talk wrote:
Karen,
I am a mechanical designer and drafter. I am an engineering technologist, certified by OACETT (http://oacett.org).
Ask about threadlockers in the hardware store. The really popular one is Loctite 242, which is a lubricating, medium strength threadlocker which is blue in colour. This is very nice stuff for mechanical assembly. The lubrication gives you better control over tightening torque, which is really cool if you are using a torque wrench. :) Alternate threadlockers can be sealing or wicking. Wicking might be very nice for you, but you probably won't find this stuff in a regular store. Most threadlockers are based on Military Standard MIL-S-46163A, and several manufacturers make equivalent, compliant stuff. The colours are part of the standard. Purple is low strength, blue is medium, and red is high strength. The blue, medium strength is good. The red, high strength is difficult to remove without damaging things.
The regular Loctite threadlockers can be very nasty around plastic electronics like connectors and PCB components. Be very, very careful to apply it only to metal components. I have had some nasty experiences with this.
Consider usng Krazy glue, and wicking it into the thread. If you don't glue your fingers together, you should be fine. Look for a thin cyanoacrylate glue. The thick, goopy stuff won't wick.
On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 23:30:21 -0400 (EDT) Karen Lewellen via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
i feel better that i can place some of the locktite on the ring, then put it into position. Will seek it at walmart or Home depot.
On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, James Knott via talk wrote:
On 2021-04-20 10:31 p.m., Karen Lewellen via talk wrote:
I have the ring. I even have more than one. so you put this liquid on the ring and it sticks in place? Where do I get this product?
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Like Howard I am a CET and in the day when I was learning, the programs actively discouraged people with problems like colour blindness. Almost all the courses were technical or math related and no thought was given to human factors or access for people with impairments. I would hope that things are a bit better now. I know that you can get the ring back on by feel having done the same kind of thing many times working on objects that are not visible while being worked on. Products like locktite or Krazy glue will require a reasonable level of eye-hand co-ordination and may be beyond what your vision will allow. In essence what you are trying to do is stop the ring from spinning off. This can be done by inserting something into the threads while the parts are being assembled or by applying some glue like substance that will bind the ring to the surrounding surface. The problem with the various solutions to this point are that they require knowing how much product you get on the parts and being able to assemble them while touching almost nothing of the parts being assembled. If you go to a local hardware store or Home Depot I am sure the staff would be willing to glue the part in place for no charge if you buy the product. This is a fix that should only take seconds to a few minutes and is not technically demanding. Of course this would require you to drag your scanner out to the local hardware store or Home Depot. On 2021-04-21 12:17 a.m., Karen Lewellen via talk wrote:
Okay Howard. Explain how you would tell these apart if blind? What does your engineering background, since you reference here, teach you about working via touch alone? That is my situation here. I must be able to safely apply this, without seeing its shade onto an extremely small space. Or, I can take this scanner and this ring to a business and pay someone to replace the ring. if so, where? Karen
On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, Howard Gibson via talk wrote:
Karen,
I am a mechanical designer and drafter. I am an engineering technologist, certified by OACETT (http://oacett.org).
Ask about threadlockers in the hardware store. The really popular one is Loctite 242, which is a lubricating, medium strength threadlocker which is blue in colour. This is very nice stuff for mechanical assembly. The lubrication gives you better control over tightening torque, which is really cool if you are using a torque wrench. :) Alternate threadlockers can be sealing or wicking. Wicking might be very nice for you, but you probably won't find this stuff in a regular store. Most threadlockers are based on Military Standard MIL-S-46163A, and several manufacturers make equivalent, compliant stuff. The colours are part of the standard. Purple is low strength, blue is medium, and red is high strength. The blue, medium strength is good. The red, high strength is difficult to remove without damaging things.
The regular Loctite threadlockers can be very nasty around plastic electronics like connectors and PCB components. Be very, very careful to apply it only to metal components. I have had some nasty experiences with this.
Consider usng Krazy glue, and wicking it into the thread. If you don't glue your fingers together, you should be fine. Look for a thin cyanoacrylate glue. The thick, goopy stuff won't wick.
On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 23:30:21 -0400 (EDT) Karen Lewellen via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
i feel better that i can place some of the locktite on the ring, then put it into position. Will seek it at walmart or Home depot.
On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, James Knott via talk wrote:
On 2021-04-20 10:31 p.m., Karen Lewellen via talk wrote:
I have the ring. I even have more than one. so you put this liquid on the ring and it sticks in place? Where do I get this product?
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On 2021-04-21 12:17 a.m., Karen Lewellen via talk wrote:
That is my situation here. I must be able to safely apply this, without seeing its shade onto an extremely small space. Or, I can take this scanner and this ring to a business and pay someone to replace the ring. if so, where?
Do you not have a friend, relative or other who can assist you with this? If you can't see what you're doing, you will likely have problems. Screwing the ring on is one thing, but using adhesives is another.
On Wed, 21 Apr 2021, James Knott via talk wrote:
Do you not have a friend, relative or other who can assist you with this? If you can't see what you're doing, you will likely have problems. Screwing the ring on is one thing, but using adhesives is another.
I am unsure why I would have began this thread if there was an army of assistance here. I remain unconvinced that glue of any kind is needful, based on the last time this happened. If I knew what to get small enough to screw on the jack, My own screwdrivers are either too small or to large, I could get what I need. Otherwise I pay for the professional assistance, which is just fine by me. Karen
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On 2021-04-21 2:25 p.m., Karen Lewellen wrote:
Karen
The purpose of the Loctite or other is to keep something that uses screw threads from loosening. Based on your description, a ring, or more likely a nut, has come loose. A bit of Loktite can keep that from happening and this is often done in industry. I have many years experience as a technician working on things far more complex than a loose headphone jack, as have others here. For someone with decent vision and who's not all thumbs, such a repair would be trivial. As I said, you don't have to go to a shop. Just let someone help you. If you are in my area, I would have no problem doing so and I have had my first COVID shot, so I am safe. Incidentally, one thing I did many years ago was sponsor a blind amateur radio operator. This involved doing some things, such as installing an antenna, which he was unable to do and to ensure the equipment was being operated properly.
On Wed, 21 Apr 2021, James Knott via talk wrote:
The purpose of the Loctite or other is to keep something that uses screw threads from loosening. Based on your description, a ring, or more likely a nut, has come loose. A bit of Loktite can keep that from happening and this is often done in industry. I have many years experience as a technician working on things far more complex than a loose headphone jack, as have others here. For someone with decent vision and who's not all thumbs, such a repair would be trivial.
As I said, you don't have to go to a shop. Just let someone help you. If you are in my area, I would have no problem doing so and I have had my first COVID shot, so I am safe. I have no issues getting help with the task, its locating the help that remains the issue.
Incidentally, one thing I did many years ago was sponsor a blind amateur radio operator. This involved doing some things, such as installing an antenna, which he was unable to do and to ensure the equipment was being operated properly.
Goodness that really illustrates how blind differs from person to person. I could introduce you to some blind armature radio operators who built their antenna from scratch. Xerox adaptive technology used to train blind engineers to repair these machines, I believe Frontier computers here in Toronto built them many years back. Truly getting help is not something I take issue with at all. but that still means locating that help.
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On 2021-04-21 2:53 p.m., Karen Lewellen wrote:
I could introduce you to some blind armature radio operators who built their antenna from scratch.
Building and installing are entirely different things. This guy lived in a townhouse in the Guildwood area of Scarborough. The roof was very steep and awkward to get to. You wouldn't want a blind person up there. Even I, as a young healthy 20 year old guy back then, was very cautious about doing that.
On Wed, 21 Apr 2021, James Knott via talk wrote:
Building and installing are entirely different things. This guy lived in a townhouse in the Guildwood area of Scarborough. The roof was very steep and awkward to get to. You wouldn't want a blind person up there. Even I, as a young healthy 20 year old guy back then, was very cautious about doing that. Oh laughs...well perhaps in that situation smiles. Kare
An alternate solution that may save you a trip out into the Zombie Apocalypse would be to use a little drop of nail polish. Have it contact the outer edge of the ring and the surrounding plastic or metal. A small drop should be sufficient and be careful to not get it in the hole of the plug. Although not as good as industrial products it is often at hand. On 2021-04-20 11:30 p.m., Karen Lewellen via talk wrote:
i feel better that i can place some of the locktite on the ring, then put it into position. Will seek it at walmart or Home depot.
On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, James Knott via talk wrote:
On 2021-04-20 10:31 p.m., Karen Lewellen via talk wrote:
I have the ring. I even have more than one. so you put this liquid on the ring and it sticks in place? Where do I get this product?
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On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 10:14 PM James Knott via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
On 2021-04-20 9:38 p.m., Karen Lewellen via talk wrote:
what is loosekite?
Loctite is a type of adhesive that is placed on screws or nuts to keep them from loosening. You put it on after the screw or nut is tightend, so that it will not loosen.
Sorry - - - if you put locktight on AFTER assembly you will NOT get positive results. What you need is one drop on the threads, but only on the threads and then insert socket from the backside and tighten on the nut from the front side, wait a bit and bob's your uncle - - - - I like the waiting before stressing as it takes a few minutes to do the anaerobic set as I remember. For parts like this I might even recommend using red locktite but that is only designed to come apart with heat. The blue version should be sufficient. As to getting this done - - - - I'm some 2500 km away or I'd offer to do this - - - - even if soldering a new end on is required this is a very easy and very very short fix. Miss Karen - - - - any decent handyman should be able to effect this fix - - - - so if you number one of those in your circle ask them. Locktite is much easier to find today than when I first ran into it. Would suggest that you ask to have all such nuts removed and daubed and retighted. I'm finding it unusual that such a nut would ever loosen - - - - but there you are. Regards Great product with lots of alternative formats for lots of uses - - - good company. HTH
On 2021-04-21 6:33 a.m., o1bigtenor wrote:
Sorry - - - if you put locktight on AFTER assembly you will NOT get positive results. What you need is one drop on the threads, but only on the threads and then insert socket from the backside and tighten on the nut from the front side, wait a bit and bob's your uncle - - - - I like the waiting before stressing as it takes a few minutes to do the anaerobic set as I remember.
That depends on the type. Some go on before assembly, some after. The ones I've used, after.
Will seek out a handyman then. As explained, this is the equal to my computer monitor, with the machine very difficult to replace. Since the headphone jack gets allot of activity, and extends out of the hod of the machine, after several years of my moving the headphones several times a day, I am not surprised. happened once before in 2015 or 16. My personal engineer just tightened it, no chemical smell recalled, which is why I thought a small wrench could tighten the nut itself. It sits beside a comparative jack which, if one uses an audio patch chord allows one to record the information onto external audio media like a cassette tape. Thanks, Karen On Wed, 21 Apr 2021, o1bigtenor via talk wrote:
On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 10:14 PM James Knott via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
On 2021-04-20 9:38 p.m., Karen Lewellen via talk wrote:
what is loosekite?
Loctite is a type of adhesive that is placed on screws or nuts to keep them from loosening. You put it on after the screw or nut is tightend, so that it will not loosen.
Sorry - - - if you put locktight on AFTER assembly you will NOT get positive results. What you need is one drop on the threads, but only on the threads and then insert socket from the backside and tighten on the nut from the front side, wait a bit and bob's your uncle - - - - I like the waiting before stressing as it takes a few minutes to do the anaerobic set as I remember.
For parts like this I might even recommend using red locktite but that is only designed to come apart with heat. The blue version should be sufficient.
As to getting this done - - - - I'm some 2500 km away or I'd offer to do this - - - - even if soldering a new end on is required this is a very easy and very very short fix.
Miss Karen - - - - any decent handyman should be able to effect this fix - - - - so if you number one of those in your circle ask them. Locktite is much easier to find today than when I first ran into it. Would suggest that you ask to have all such nuts removed and daubed and retighted. I'm finding it unusual that such a nut would ever loosen - - - - but there you are.
Regards Great product with lots of alternative formats for lots of uses - - - good company.
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Audio jacks do wear out given enough use. They have a built-in spring and are coated with chrome, which wears down, and then can oxidize. You also can't get in there and clean the contacts with a pencil eraser, as it is too small. The audio jack is really a wear item, and would only take a couple of minutes to replace, even if soldering is required. Your machine is ancient and needs to be treated with the utmost care, but you knew that already. Maintenance on an electronic product are now pretty rare. People just throw the old one away and buy new. Therefore shops that specialize in reuse of electronic items are almost extinct. Thankfully you only have an issue with the audio jack, which is easily fixed. Don On Wed, 21 Apr 2021 at 14:14, Karen Lewellen via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
Will seek out a handyman then. As explained, this is the equal to my computer monitor, with the machine very difficult to replace. Since the headphone jack gets allot of activity, and extends out of the hod of the machine, after several years of my moving the headphones several times a day, I am not surprised. happened once before in 2015 or 16. My personal engineer just tightened it, no chemical smell recalled, which is why I thought a small wrench could tighten the nut itself. It sits beside a comparative jack which, if one uses an audio patch chord allows one to record the information onto external audio media like a cassette tape. Thanks, Karen
On Wed, 21 Apr 2021, o1bigtenor via talk wrote:
On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 10:14 PM James Knott via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
On 2021-04-20 9:38 p.m., Karen Lewellen via talk wrote:
what is loosekite?
Loctite is a type of adhesive that is placed on screws or nuts to keep them from loosening. You put it on after the screw or nut is tightend, so that it will not loosen.
Sorry - - - if you put locktight on AFTER assembly you will NOT get positive results. What you need is one drop on the threads, but only on the threads and then insert socket from the backside and tighten on the nut from the front side, wait a bit and bob's your uncle - - - - I like the waiting before stressing as it takes a few minutes to do the anaerobic set as I remember.
For parts like this I might even recommend using red locktite but that is only designed to come apart with heat. The blue version should be sufficient.
As to getting this done - - - - I'm some 2500 km away or I'd offer to do this - - - - even if soldering a new end on is required this is a very easy and very very short fix.
Miss Karen - - - - any decent handyman should be able to effect this fix - - - - so if you number one of those in your circle ask them. Locktite is much easier to find today than when I first ran into it. Would suggest that you ask to have all such nuts removed and daubed and retighted. I'm finding it unusual that such a nut would ever loosen - - - - but there you are.
Regards Great product with lots of alternative formats for lots of uses - - - good company.
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actually, this particular edition of the machine is about 5 years old. While Xerox introduced the reading edge in the mid 1990s, they kept producing them for years, passing production onto another company. This is not a casual piece of electronics certainly. I feel sure if those people were using this to access the printed page, and run their computer, it wold not be just tossed smiles. Besides, the thing I am using right now sounds like it is congested and is not pronouncing things well..which is no way to get any work done. Kare On Wed, 21 Apr 2021, Don Tai wrote:
Audio jacks do wear out given enough use. They have a built-in spring and are coated with chrome, which wears down, and then can oxidize. You also can't get in there and clean the contacts with a pencil eraser, as it is too small. The audio jack is really a wear item, and would only take a couple of minutes to replace, even if soldering is required. Your machine is ancient and needs to be treated with the utmost care, but you knew that already.
Maintenance on an electronic product are now pretty rare. People just throw the old one away and buy new. Therefore shops that specialize in reuse of electronic items are almost extinct. Thankfully you only have an issue with the audio jack, which is easily fixed.
Don
On Wed, 21 Apr 2021 at 14:14, Karen Lewellen via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
Will seek out a handyman then. As explained, this is the equal to my computer monitor, with the machine very difficult to replace. Since the headphone jack gets allot of activity, and extends out of the hod of the machine, after several years of my moving the headphones several times a day, I am not surprised. happened once before in 2015 or 16. My personal engineer just tightened it, no chemical smell recalled, which is why I thought a small wrench could tighten the nut itself. It sits beside a comparative jack which, if one uses an audio patch chord allows one to record the information onto external audio media like a cassette tape. Thanks, Karen
On Wed, 21 Apr 2021, o1bigtenor via talk wrote:
On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 10:14 PM James Knott via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
On 2021-04-20 9:38 p.m., Karen Lewellen via talk wrote:
what is loosekite?
Loctite is a type of adhesive that is placed on screws or nuts to keep them from loosening. You put it on after the screw or nut is tightend, so that it will not loosen.
Sorry - - - if you put locktight on AFTER assembly you will NOT get positive results. What you need is one drop on the threads, but only on the threads and then insert socket from the backside and tighten on the nut from the front side, wait a bit and bob's your uncle - - - - I like the waiting before stressing as it takes a few minutes to do the anaerobic set as I remember.
For parts like this I might even recommend using red locktite but that is only designed to come apart with heat. The blue version should be sufficient.
As to getting this done - - - - I'm some 2500 km away or I'd offer to do this - - - - even if soldering a new end on is required this is a very easy and very very short fix.
Miss Karen - - - - any decent handyman should be able to effect this fix - - - - so if you number one of those in your circle ask them. Locktite is much easier to find today than when I first ran into it. Would suggest that you ask to have all such nuts removed and daubed and retighted. I'm finding it unusual that such a nut would ever loosen - - - - but there you are.
Regards Great product with lots of alternative formats for lots of uses - - - good company.
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On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 02:13:52PM -0400, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote:
Will seek out a handyman then. As explained, this is the equal to my computer monitor, with the machine very difficult to replace. Since the headphone jack gets allot of activity, and extends out of the hod of the machine, after several years of my moving the headphones several times a day, I am not surprised. happened once before in 2015 or 16. My personal engineer just tightened it, no chemical smell recalled, which is why I thought a small wrench could tighten the nut itself. It sits beside a comparative jack which, if one uses an audio patch chord allows one to record the information onto external audio media like a cassette tape.
Makes me wonder if a short 3.5mm extension cord would be worth adding so you can leave it attached all the time, and plug into the end of the extension instead, and hence move the wear to that location instead and spare the poor old machine itself. -- Len Sorensen
On Wed, 21 Apr 2021 at 15:47, Lennart Sorensen via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
Makes me wonder if a short 3.5mm extension cord would be worth adding so you can leave it attached all the time, and plug into the end of the extension instead, and hence move the wear to that location instead and spare the poor old machine itself.
I could be wrong but from what I've gathered so far, there are no broken wires or wear on the contacts in the jack itself. The only problem is that the nut or threaded ring, that mounts the jack to the chassis, has come loose. It just needs to be screwed back on and tightened. It has been suggested that Loctite or some other similar substance be added to the thread, to prevent this problem from happening in the future. I don't think Karen has said whether the plug is frequently inserted and removed from the jack or not. -- Scott
I did speak to this sort of. actually, I have an extension, need to replace it again as it has a short. My headphones must match certain specifications. With my intending to find a second pair when I can get eyes here again. Still the unit itself has outlasted headphone extensions and headphones without missing a beat. They were built like a tank, and kept in production because of all the reading abilities available. Kare On Wed, 21 Apr 2021, Scott Allen via talk wrote:
On Wed, 21 Apr 2021 at 15:47, Lennart Sorensen via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
Makes me wonder if a short 3.5mm extension cord would be worth adding so you can leave it attached all the time, and plug into the end of the extension instead, and hence move the wear to that location instead and spare the poor old machine itself.
I could be wrong but from what I've gathered so far, there are no broken wires or wear on the contacts in the jack itself. The only problem is that the nut or threaded ring, that mounts the jack to the chassis, has come loose. It just needs to be screwed back on and tightened. It has been suggested that Loctite or some other similar substance be added to the thread, to prevent this problem from happening in the future.
I don't think Karen has said whether the plug is frequently inserted and removed from the jack or not.
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Hi folks, Sharing the happy ending, given all the discussion. igs systems, www.igssystems.ca Located down the street from me on danforth, visited my place this afternoon and worked the needful magic. What I failed to articulate well, save to some off list questions, is that all of the audio threads are in a connector of their own, none free inside the scanner case. Making this a needle nose pliers reattach nut effort. Easy in theory, its a really small jack. Still its done, I can safely use my machine again, I am motivated to get those replacement Walkman headphones sooner, and all is amazing with the world. Kare
Good. Happy ending. On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 at 16:26, Karen Lewellen via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
Hi folks, Sharing the happy ending, given all the discussion. igs systems, www.igssystems.ca Located down the street from me on danforth, visited my place this afternoon and worked the needful magic. What I failed to articulate well, save to some off list questions, is that all of the audio threads are in a connector of their own, none free inside the scanner case. Making this a needle nose pliers reattach nut effort. Easy in theory, its a really small jack. Still its done, I can safely use my machine again, I am motivated to get those replacement Walkman headphones sooner, and all is amazing with the world. Kare
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Alvin Starr -
Don Tai -
Howard Gibson -
James Knott -
Karen Lewellen -
lsorense＠csclub.uwaterloo.ca -
o1bigtenor -
Scott Allen -
William Witteman