The Ontario Electrical Safety Authority has recently ratified Power over Ethernet for domestic residential LED lighting and associated home control systems. I was just wondering if anybody on the list is using PoE for lighting and has any recommendations on which types of LED's are best for general use. I have a 45w grow light for an African violet but the light it casts gives a kind of institutional feeling. I'm not sure I'd want it everywhere. I live in apartment with older ceiling fixtures and currently screw-in compact fluorescent bulbs last a year or so before the transformer dies from voltage spikes. Ostensibly this is from being on the same sub-panel as switched loads, fans, ac and the fridge being the main culprits. Any suggestions and anecdotes are appreciated. TIA Russell
On 02/22/2019 07:18 AM, Russell Reiter via talk wrote:
The Ontario Electrical Safety Authority has recently ratified Power over Ethernet for domestic residential LED lighting and associated home control systems. I was just wondering if anybody on the list is using PoE for lighting and has any recommendations on which types of LED's are best for general use. I have a 45w grow light for an African violet but the light it casts gives a kind of institutional feeling. I'm not sure I'd want it everywhere.
I live in apartment with older ceiling fixtures and currently screw-in compact fluorescent bulbs last a year or so before the transformer dies from voltage spikes. Ostensibly this is from being on the same sub-panel as switched loads, fans, ac and the fridge being the main culprits.
Any suggestions and anecdotes are appreciated.
PoE seems to be an expensive way to do this, as you'd need at least an injector and power supply. Have you tried screw in LED lights? Before Doug Ford became Premier, there'd be occasional rebates on them, where you could buy the lights for about 50¢. IIRC, he's killed that program, to "save" taxpayer's money. Also, are you sure it's a tranformer that fails? AFIK, there's no transformer in them, only some electronic circuit. There's not even the inductive ballast that's common with fluorescent tubes.
On Fri, Feb 22, 2019, 8:53 AM James Knott via talk <talk@gtalug.org wrote:
On 02/22/2019 07:18 AM, Russell Reiter via talk wrote:
The Ontario Electrical Safety Authority has recently ratified Power over Ethernet for domestic residential LED lighting and associated home control systems. I was just wondering if anybody on the list is using PoE for lighting and has any recommendations on which types of LED's are best for general use. I have a 45w grow light for an African violet but the light it casts gives a kind of institutional feeling. I'm not sure I'd want it everywhere.
I live in apartment with older ceiling fixtures and currently screw-in compact fluorescent bulbs last a year or so before the transformer dies from voltage spikes. Ostensibly this is from being on the same sub-panel as switched loads, fans, ac and the fridge being the main culprits.
Any suggestions and anecdotes are appreciated.
PoE seems to be an expensive way to do this, as you'd need at least an injector and power supply. Have you tried screw in LED lights? Before Doug Ford became Premier, there'd be occasional rebates on them, where you could buy the lights for about 50¢. IIRC, he's killed that program, to "save" taxpayer's money.
Also, are you sure it's a tranformer that fails? AFIK, there's no transformer in them, only some electronic circuit. There's not even the inductive ballast that's common with fluorescent tubes.
Sorry, I should have said ballast equivalent circuit, whatever it is, the fixtures are old and I can't replace those. I'm really more interested in PoE for setting lighting times and intensity and also strategic placement of overhead strip and floorboard night lighting. Also I have a floor to ceiling nook area where I'd like to grow herbs. Its too irregular a shape for even adequate storage but a couple of shelves for basil etc. could fit nicely. I'd kind of be in violation of the fire code if I had a bunch of 110v cords running from wall outlets, so I'd thought I'd look at integrating my general lighting with grow lighting. If only to reduce the amount of tech I have to throw out periodically. It might be cost effective to replace the entire buildings lighting, but I don't see that happening any time soon.
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On 02/22/2019 09:46 AM, Russell Reiter via talk wrote:
I'd like to grow herbs.
You can buy that legally now. ;-) Well, LEDs certainly can fall under the low voltage regulations that have been in place since long before PoE. Low voltage lighting has been around for a long time. https://www.amazon.ca/s?k=low+voltage+lighting&hvadid=208484428480&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9000810&hvnetw=g&hvpos=1t1&hvqmt=e&hvrand=13101438222592554494&hvtargid=kwd-295378529646&tag=googcana-20&ref=pd_sl_1t9idi40es_e BTW, if the existing fixtures are failing, they should be replaced.
On Fri, Feb 22, 2019, 10:30 AM James Knott via talk <talk@gtalug.org wrote:
On 02/22/2019 09:46 AM, Russell Reiter via talk wrote:
I'd like to grow herbs.
You can buy that legally now. ;-)
I'm trying to make up for a mis-dieted youth. Apparently fresh herbs are anti-oxident rich. Although I could grow pot in the herb nook, I thought I'd try something simple first.
Well, LEDs certainly can fall under the low voltage regulations that have been in place since long before PoE. Low voltage lighting has been around for a long time.
BTW, if the existing fixtures are failing, they should be replaced.
It's not the fixtures. I can still get incandescents which last much longer than CF's. They are more voltage sag and spike friendly. Im more interested in IoT possibilities. Station monotoring for humidity and soil moisture and automatically programming light intensity for seasonal variation replication.
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