On 2015-02-02 01:04 AM, William Park wrote:

This is in response to ODROID-C1, http://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G141578608433

I dunno, the Raspberry Pi Foundation works pretty closely with Broadcom, and also with Microsoft on supporting Windows 10. This would have taken some planning, and I'm not sure that they consider Odroid to be a competitor. The real question is, is the new machine: * The Raspberry Pi 𝜏 (for those who feel that it's necessary to have 𝜏 = 2𝜋), or * The Raspberry Pi 10 (since 𝜋² ≈ 10, for most engineering purposes) Enquiring Minds Want To Know! Stewart

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 5:22 AM, Daniel Wayne Armstrong wrote:

Official announcement and question answered:

http://www.raspberrypi.org/raspberry-pi-2-on-sale/

"Because it has an ARMv7 processor, it can run the full range of ARM GNU/Linux distributions, including Snappy Ubuntu Core..."

From the Official announcement, I saw " NEON-enabled multicore video codecs can be over 20x faster", so would this 20x faster be fast enough for

I haven't pay much attention to raspberry-pi before. It comes with an HDMI port, is it? How fast would it be to play movies from localnetwork, or play youtube videos? playing youtube from a browser? Thanks

Do you still need to pay for a license for add-on codecs? On 4 February 2015 at 09:59, Lennart Sorensen <lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:

On Tue, Feb 03, 2015 at 10:23:10PM -0500, tlugys.ats@spamgourmet.com wrote:

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I haven't pay much attention to raspberry-pi before. It comes with an HDMI port, is it? How fast would it be to play movies from localnetwork, or play youtube videos?

From the Official announcement, I saw " NEON-enabled multicore video codecs can be over 20x faster", so would this 20x faster be fast enough for playing youtube from a browser?

Well certainly the new version does support neon as well as vfp3/vfp4. Of course it also still has the videocore that supports a number of video decoding options. Certainly doing it by CPU only was hopeless on the original pi, but that's not what they were doing in general as far as I know.

I see

http://www.raspi.today/5-things-you-need-to-know-about-the-raspberry-pis-epi... says that the original can play 720p videos from youtube and vimeo. It may be that the new CPU cores will help it do more than that.

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On Feb 4, 2015 2:13 PM, "Tim Tisdall" <tisdall@gmail.com> wrote:

According to that article the codec licences are not included in the new RPi2

But are the licences included with the Odroid, or have they just implemented the code without paying Fraunhofer their dues? Cheers Stewart

On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 04:40:02PM -0500, Stewart Russell wrote

But are the licences included with the Odroid, or have they just implemented the code without paying Fraunhofer their dues?

Depending where on the planet you are, MP3 patents may have already expired in your jurisdiction as per http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP3#Licensing_and_patent_issues This is not legal advice; see a real lawyer for that.

The initial near-complete MPEG-1 standard (parts 1, 2 and 3) was publicly available on 6 December 1991 as ISO CD 11172. In most countries, patents cannot be filed after prior art has been made public, and patents expire 20 years after the initial filing date, which can be up to 12 months later for filings in other countries. As a result, patents required to implement MP3 expired in most countries by December 2012, 21 years after the publication of ISO CD 11172.

An exception is the United States, where patents filed prior to 8 June 1995 expire 17 years after the publication date of the patent, but application extensions make it possible for a patent to issue much later than normally expected (see submarine patents). The various MP3-related patents expire on dates ranging from 2007 to 2017 in the U.S.

-- Walter Dnes <waltdnes@waltdnes.org>