On Mon, Aug 19, 2019, 11:09 PM Chris F.A. Johnson via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:

On Mon, 19 Aug 2019, Alex Volkov via talk wrote:

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Hey Hugh,

Just a quick note while wearing a moderator hat on this mailing list.

You may not be aware of it, but 'Rice it' is a pejorative term, please avoid using it here.

See -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rice_burner

"In some cases users of the term assert that it is not offensive or racist,[12] or else treat the term as a humorous, mild insult rather than a racial slur."

And in the articles referred to, it is certainly NOT being used as a racial slur.

In fact since the advent of bio-fuel it is possible to use rice fermentation produced alcohol in vehicles so the term is amorphous and would not fall within the Tlug code of conduct which relates to discrimination against people. "Discrimination We are dedicated to creating and preserving an inclusive, nondiscriminatory environment, regardless of age, gender, gender identity and expression, sexual orientation, disability, physical appearance, body size, race, or religion. Accessibility is an important part of being inclusive. We favor accessibility, and where accessibility issues are identified, we strive to document and communicate them. When accessible alternatives to any tools or venues are brought to our attention, we investigate them to the best of our ability." All these protections afforded by the code of conduct relate to persons and personalities. It is impossible to discriminate against crafted objects, they are not persons. Otherwise people would be moderated for saying Chromebooks are crap compared to Thinkpads. AI would have to make a quantum leap for a manufactured object to be able to take offence at being designated in a perjorative manner. Maybe some day when they do develop personalities and the associated cognative ability to be offended, but that day has not come yet. Without offence to the moderator, this is silly season stuff and serves no purpose except as an exercise of dominance of personality. You cannot discriminate against, or be perjorative towards a class of person who does not exist, even if they subscribe to the list as an AI chatbot. The aim of all equality legislation, aka Human Rights, is to protect a persons own personality from degrading conduct which is aimed directly at them as a member of a proscribed class. That is what hate speach is, why it is designated as such and why its publication may be prohibited. It it most pointedly not to be used to abrogate freedom of expression or to create a dominant authority where that authority does not exist.

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Thank you,

Alex.

On 2019-08-19 7:14 p.m., D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote:

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<https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/>

Personally, I like a boring desktop.

I found this from a blog post:

< https://triosdevelopers.com/jason.eckert/blog/Entries/2019/4/7_How_ricing_sh...

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This guy has a nice collection of old computers (in Cambridge, Ontario): <https://triosdevelopers.com/jason.eckert/retro_computing.html>

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