For the first time in half a decade, I find myself needing a new UPS. My 1500VA APC UPS gave up the ghost this weekend. What brands are folks favoring theses days? -- Scott Sullivan
APC generally. Are you considering just changing the battery? On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 10:28 AM Scott Sullivan via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
For the first time in half a decade, I find myself needing a new UPS. My 1500VA APC UPS gave up the ghost this weekend.
What brands are folks favoring theses days? -- Scott Sullivan --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
The UPS was deliberately tripped while I was flipping breakers. But it locked up with a vague F04 error, which is some internal circuit fault. The internet 'wisdom' on resetting UPS has not resolved the fault. The unit is 5 years old and out of warranty. This could just be old age... but I've got seperate evidence of a wiring fault on that and the adjacent circuit. So I'm getting an electrician in. I've never been thrilled with the proprietary 10p4c ended usb cable APC insists on. But otherwise have been happy enough. Just in the market again, curious if it had changed in any meaningful ways. On November 8, 2021 10:29:06 a.m. EST, Ansar Mohammed via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
APC generally. Are you considering just changing the battery?
On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 10:28 AM Scott Sullivan via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
For the first time in half a decade, I find myself needing a new UPS. My 1500VA APC UPS gave up the ghost this weekend.
What brands are folks favoring theses days? -- Scott Sullivan --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
-- Scott Sullivan
From personal experience:
https://www.cyberpowersystems.com/products/ups/ PFC SINEWAVE => CP1500PFCLCD I have two of those that use standard USB-B. Works with Linux with no special configuration, (tested with KDE: shows % remaining, charging state, and can automatically turn monitor off, shutdown/hibernate PC) and tested in a few actual outages over 5+ years. No complaints. On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 11:21 AM Scott Sullivan via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
The UPS was deliberately tripped while I was flipping breakers. But it locked up with a vague F04 error, which is some internal circuit fault. The internet 'wisdom' on resetting UPS has not resolved the fault. The unit is 5 years old and out of warranty. This could just be old age... but I've got seperate evidence of a wiring fault on that and the adjacent circuit. So I'm getting an electrician in.
I've never been thrilled with the proprietary 10p4c ended usb cable APC insists on. But otherwise have been happy enough. Just in the market again, curious if it had changed in any meaningful ways.
On November 8, 2021 10:29:06 a.m. EST, Ansar Mohammed via talk < talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
APC generally. Are you considering just changing the battery?
On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 10:28 AM Scott Sullivan via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
For the first time in half a decade, I find myself needing a new UPS. My 1500VA APC UPS gave up the ghost this weekend.
What brands are folks favoring theses days? -- Scott Sullivan --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
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This is probably not what Scott's looking for, but A-1 Electronics (the weird surplus place near Canada Computers Etobicoke) refurbishes APC UPSs and sells them at a reasonable price. No idea of current availability, but they used to have a few from mid-sized to too-heavy-to-move server room units Stewart
On Mon, Nov 08, 2021 at 12:28:05PM -0500, Stewart Russell via talk wrote:
This is probably not what Scott's looking for, but A-1 Electronics (the weird surplus place near Canada Computers Etobicoke) refurbishes APC UPSs and sells them at a reasonable price. No idea of current availability, but they used to have a few from mid-sized to too-heavy-to-move server room units
I have bought refurbished APC Smart UPSs from some place up around steeles and keele. I can never remember their name though. :) -- Len Sorensen
On Mon, Nov 08, 2021 at 11:21:07AM -0500, Scott Sullivan via talk wrote:
The UPS was deliberately tripped while I was flipping breakers. But it locked up with a vague F04 error, which is some internal circuit fault. The internet 'wisdom' on resetting UPS has not resolved the fault. The unit is 5 years old and out of warranty. This could just be old age... but I've got seperate evidence of a wiring fault on that and the adjacent circuit. So I'm getting an electrician in.
I've never been thrilled with the proprietary 10p4c ended usb cable APC insists on. But otherwise have been happy enough. Just in the market again, curious if it had changed in any meaningful ways.
All my APC UPSs have standard USB-B connectors on them. Of course they are all APC Smart UPS 1500s. -- Len Sorensen
Open it up, find the battery specs, change the battery. button it up. Did the electronics fry or did it just go dead? Chances are it is just the battery On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 at 10:28, Scott Sullivan via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
For the first time in half a decade, I find myself needing a new UPS. My 1500VA APC UPS gave up the ghost this weekend.
What brands are folks favoring theses days? -- Scott Sullivan --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Given reading this thread indicates you are not changing shipping companies..my thought from the subject line smiles, just what does UPS mean in this context? My second thought was that the p referred to power, but...anyway. Kare On Mon, 8 Nov 2021, Don Tai via talk wrote:
Open it up, find the battery specs, change the battery. button it up. Did the electronics fry or did it just go dead? Chances are it is just the battery
On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 at 10:28, Scott Sullivan via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
For the first time in half a decade, I find myself needing a new UPS. My 1500VA APC UPS gave up the ghost this weekend.
What brands are folks favoring theses days? -- Scott Sullivan --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
UPS=uninterrupted power supply UPS=United Parcel Service (not the subject here) On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 at 15:07, Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net> wrote:
Given reading this thread indicates you are not changing shipping companies..my thought from the subject line smiles, just what does UPS mean in this context? My second thought was that the p referred to power, but...anyway. Kare
On Mon, 8 Nov 2021, Don Tai via talk wrote:
Open it up, find the battery specs, change the battery. button it up. Did the electronics fry or did it just go dead? Chances are it is just the battery
On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 at 10:28, Scott Sullivan via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
For the first time in half a decade, I find myself needing a new UPS. My 1500VA APC UPS gave up the ghost this weekend.
What brands are folks favoring theses days? -- Scott Sullivan --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Folks have recommended replacing the gel-cell batteries. Where is a good source for these batteries? I prefer online. (I have UPSes that need new batteries.)
On 2021-11-08 10:38 a.m., D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote:
Where is a good source for these batteries? I prefer online.
That depends on where you live. I have bought from a place in north Mississauga and Sayal also has them. https://www.magnacharge.com/
On Mon, Nov 08, 2021 at 10:38:00AM -0500, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote:
Folks have recommended replacing the gel-cell batteries.
Where is a good source for these batteries? I prefer online.
I've had rapid service from both https://www.canadianbatteries.com/ and https://www.upsbatterycenter.ca/ for two APC UPSs and one Triplite UPS. If I recall correctly, I may not have received a new caddy and had to disassemble and reuse the old one, but that might have been something else. I can't remember which came from where. In both cases my orders arrived promptly and well packaged. I haven't had the new batteries long enough (soon 1 year) to say anything about longevity other than that they are working fine so far. -- Znoteer znoteer@mailbox.org
On 2021-11-08 10:38, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote:
Folks have recommended replacing the gel-cell batteries.
Where is a good source for these batteries? I prefer online.
(I have UPSes that need new batteries.) --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
We use to use www.eastpenncanada.com but they may be a bit more industrial than what your looking for. -- Alvin Starr || land: (647)478-6285 Netvel Inc. || Cell: (416)806-0133 alvin@netvel.net ||
Usually I've been an APC user and I have about half a dozen 12+ year old units around the office still in use (with replaced batteries). For the past 5 years I've been buying CyberPower, which started out as a crappy budget option about 20 years ago but now seems to be a good, reasonably priced brand.
On Nov 8, 2021, at 10:28, Scott Sullivan via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
For the first time in half a decade, I find myself needing a new UPS. My 1500VA APC UPS gave up the ghost this weekend.
What brands are folks favoring theses days? -- Scott Sullivan --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Apparently APC will buy them back On Mon, Nov 8, 2021, 10:28 AM Scott Sullivan via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
For the first time in half a decade, I find myself needing a new UPS. My 1500VA APC UPS gave up the ghost this weekend.
What brands are folks favoring theses days? -- Scott Sullivan --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
That's a good way to keep product out of the used market. Raise your prices just enough to cover the buyback cost and keep it just a bit higher than what the used market will pay. On 2021-11-09 06:04, Dave Cramer via talk wrote:
Apparently APC will buy them back
On Mon, Nov 8, 2021, 10:28 AM Scott Sullivan via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
For the first time in half a decade, I find myself needing a new UPS. My 1500VA APC UPS gave up the ghost this weekend.
What brands are folks favoring theses days? -- Scott Sullivan --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
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-- Alvin Starr || land: (647)478-6285 Netvel Inc. || Cell: (416)806-0133 alvin@netvel.net ||
Well they cover shipping both ways. I thought it was a decent deal On Tue, Nov 9, 2021, 9:29 AM Alvin Starr via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
That's a good way to keep product out of the used market. Raise your prices just enough to cover the buyback cost and keep it just a bit higher than what the used market will pay.
On 2021-11-09 06:04, Dave Cramer via talk wrote:
Apparently APC will buy them back
On Mon, Nov 8, 2021, 10:28 AM Scott Sullivan via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
For the first time in half a decade, I find myself needing a new UPS. My 1500VA APC UPS gave up the ghost this weekend.
What brands are folks favoring theses days? -- Scott Sullivan --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
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-- Alvin Starr || land: (647)478-6285 Netvel Inc. || Cell: (416)806-0133alvin@netvel.net ||
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On Tue., Nov. 9, 2021, 14:47 Dave Cramer via talk, <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
Well they cover shipping both ways. I thought it was a decent deal
It sounds like good product stewardship/EPR to me. Lead-acid battery recycling is one of the good and true stories of how recycling should work. The fines for losing control of lead waste are (rightly) huge. Stewart
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