Fedora Linux 42 is out; so is Ubuntu 25.04; GMKtec G9
Fedora 42 was released Tuesday -- on time! <https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-fedora-linux-42/> A day later, Ubuntu 25.04 was released. I've updated Fedora on a few of my machines. It seems painless. I have not updated my main desktop so I haven't much to report. The new desktop background annoys Michael Larabel of phoronix.com. I haven't yet formed an opinion. But that's a detail easy to change. To be honest, I enjoy that my background gets changed every six months. Here's Michael's review: <https://www.phoronix.com/news/Fedora-42-Released> ============== I haven't tried the new ubuntu. Ubuntu's not my normal choice. I tried a new computer that I bought from AliExpress. A GMKtec G9. <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005008456753400.html> It came with a 64GB eMMC and with Ubuntu preloaded. I did an update to that system today but I wasn't offered 25.04. If I remember correctly, Ubuntu only offers upgrades after a few weeks. BTW, a very interesting computer, but Jeff Geerling found cooling problems with it: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_Ft8OAPQ3g> Yuck. --- GTALUG Operations Mailing List operations@gtalug.org https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/operations
For anyone who follows the Fedora CLI upgrade path, there's a small but possibly significant change to the process. The dance is initially much the same: - `dnf upgrade --refresh` - `dnf install dnf-plugin-system-upgrade` - `dnf system-upgrade download --releasever=42` But now, when you would have done `dnf system-upgrade reboot` on previous upgrades, it's now `dnf offline reboot`. The previous command was quite clear about what it was doing: this new one is rather less so (apparently the `system-upgrade` subcommand doesn't work any more because it no longer exists - I didn't try). But after I issued the new command it said "The system will now reboot to upgrade to release version 42" so at least that was clear. With that change, the upgrade went cleanly for me as well. On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 at 11:32, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
Fedora 42 was released Tuesday -- on time! <https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-fedora-linux-42/> A day later, Ubuntu 25.04 was released.
I've updated Fedora on a few of my machines. It seems painless. I have not updated my main desktop so I haven't much to report.
The new desktop background annoys Michael Larabel of phoronix.com. I haven't yet formed an opinion. But that's a detail easy to change. To be honest, I enjoy that my background gets changed every six months. Here's Michael's review: <https://www.phoronix.com/news/Fedora-42-Released>
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I haven't tried the new ubuntu. Ubuntu's not my normal choice.
I tried a new computer that I bought from AliExpress. A GMKtec G9. <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005008456753400.html>
It came with a 64GB eMMC and with Ubuntu preloaded. I did an update to that system today but I wasn't offered 25.04. If I remember correctly, Ubuntu only offers upgrades after a few weeks.
BTW, a very interesting computer, but Jeff Geerling found cooling problems with it: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_Ft8OAPQ3g> Yuck. --- GTALUG Operations Mailing List operations@gtalug.org https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/operations --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
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From: Giles Orr via talk <talk@gtalug.org>
But now, when you would have done `dnf system-upgrade reboot` on previous upgrades, it's now `dnf offline reboot`. The previous command was quite clear about what it was doing: this new one is rather less so (apparently the `system-upgrade` subcommand doesn't work any more because it no longer exists - I didn't try).
I think DNF5 is new with Fedora 42. DNF now has an "offline" subcommand that allows dnf operations to be deferred until the next boot. Seems useful. I just updated my desktop for Fedora 42. There were a couple of oddities: - I used Gnome "Software" to do the update. When it rebooted to actually install the new packages, I got a blank screen. I let it cook for a while (the fan was running for some of this). Then I sshed in and told it to reboot. That worked. It is possible that this isn't a Fedora issue but a monitor problem. - postfix.system was disabled and not started. I was wondering why I wasn't getting mail. Easily fixed one the problem is discovered. I've upgraded a number of other machines, usually with DNF, but not always. None of those updates produced adventures.
I have a 6-month-old ThinkStation P3 Tiny that I keep up to date with DNF. A couple of weeks ago I clicked on a notification that a firmware update was available. GNOME Software listed two packages, but errored out on rebooting/installing them. fwupd at the command line gave the same error. The result of an online search suggested waiting for the next fwupd/systemd update. I upgraded to Fedora 42 and the subsequent dnf upgrade gave me a new systemd. One of the boot partition packages installed automatically on the next reboot, leaving me with the error for just the firmware. I booted from a FAT-formatted USB stick containing the BIOS update downloaded from Lenovo. After the progress bar(s) ran their course, there was a tense half hour of blank screen and manually powering off and back on a couple of times. I walked away for a while and came back to a running desktop. GNOME Software acknowledged the firmware installation. I changed from the Fedora desktop background to a GNOME background. Mike On Mon, Apr 21, 2025 at 1:51 PM D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
From: Giles Orr via talk <talk@gtalug.org>
But now, when you would have done `dnf system-upgrade reboot` on previous upgrades, it's now `dnf offline reboot`. The previous command was quite clear about what it was doing: this new one is rather less so (apparently the `system-upgrade` subcommand doesn't work any more because it no longer exists - I didn't try).
I think DNF5 is new with Fedora 42.
DNF now has an "offline" subcommand that allows dnf operations to be deferred until the next boot. Seems useful.
I just updated my desktop for Fedora 42. There were a couple of oddities:
- I used Gnome "Software" to do the update. When it rebooted to actually install the new packages, I got a blank screen. I let it cook for a while (the fan was running for some of this). Then I sshed in and told it to reboot. That worked. It is possible that this isn't a Fedora issue but a monitor problem.
- postfix.system was disabled and not started. I was wondering why I wasn't getting mail. Easily fixed one the problem is discovered.
I've upgraded a number of other machines, usually with DNF, but not always. None of those updates produced adventures. --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
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