Re: [GTALUG] Brand-name desktop recommendation?

On 11/11/2017 03:42 AM, ac via talk wrote:
For Linux, I would strongly recommend HP only :)
Not only, and in general, are HP's high and solid state quality, but very reliable, supports Linux, and very well suited to business end users
I have a pfSense firewall, which is based on FreeBSD, running on my HP computer.

For me, all desktop brands are interchangeable, as are their components. I would also look at the used market, such as kijiji or craigslist. The purpose of the desktop is also important. Do they need only to browse the internet or more? More disk is easy to buy. Ram is a bit more difficult, so ensure the desktop is not ancient. Don On 11 November 2017 at 07:10, James Knott via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
On 11/11/2017 03:42 AM, ac via talk wrote:
For Linux, I would strongly recommend HP only :)
Not only, and in general, are HP's high and solid state quality, but very reliable, supports Linux, and very well suited to business end users
I have a pfSense firewall, which is based on FreeBSD, running on my HP computer. --- Talk Mailing List talk@gtalug.org https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk

Yes, I do have a couple of Compaqs, and I do agree. They do not play well with others. They should be ostracised. I enjoy loading ancient desktops with 500mb ram and getting them to work with linux. Puppy will run on near anything. Don On 11 November 2017 at 12:25, James Knott via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
On 11/11/2017 11:17 AM, Don Tai wrote:
For me, all desktop brands are interchangeable, as are their components.
I guess you don't remember the Compaqs of a few years ago, that often used proprietary parts. --- Talk Mailing List talk@gtalug.org https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk

FWIW, the brand I have reliably stuck with has been Asus ... as in motherboards. The last few desktops I have bought for myself have been from Canada Computers; I research the individual components (case, CPU, mobo, video, SSD, etc), and the store will assemble and test together the result for what I consider a nominal fee. This path also makes it easy to buy a system without an OS pre-loaded, so I'm not wasting money on a Windows license I'll not be using; that can be difficult when looking at desktops bought retail (ie, BestBuy or Costco). On 11 November 2017 at 12:31, Don Tai via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
Yes, I do have a couple of Compaqs, and I do agree. They do not play well with others. They should be ostracised.
I enjoy loading ancient desktops with 500mb ram and getting them to work with linux. Puppy will run on near anything.
Don
On 11 November 2017 at 12:25, James Knott via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
On 11/11/2017 11:17 AM, Don Tai wrote:
For me, all desktop brands are interchangeable, as are their components.
I guess you don't remember the Compaqs of a few years ago, that often used proprietary parts. --- Talk Mailing List talk@gtalug.org https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
--- Talk Mailing List talk@gtalug.org https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
-- Evan Leibovitch Toronto, Canada Em: evan at telly dot org Sk: evanleibovitch Tw: el56

Actually, "free" Windows 10 that comes with a new/refurbished computer is plus, because the required business applications are Windows apps. :-) I've forgotten that CanadaComputer builds computers, either their own or to customer's spec. Thanks. -- William On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 01:56:19PM -0500, Evan Leibovitch via talk wrote:
FWIW, the brand I have reliably stuck with has been Asus ... as in motherboards.
The last few desktops I have bought for myself have been from Canada Computers; I research the individual components (case, CPU, mobo, video, SSD, etc), and the store will assemble and test together the result for what I consider a nominal fee. This path also makes it easy to buy a system without an OS pre-loaded, so I'm not wasting money on a Windows license I'll not be using; that can be difficult when looking at desktops bought retail (ie, BestBuy or Costco).
On 11 November 2017 at 12:31, Don Tai via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
Yes, I do have a couple of Compaqs, and I do agree. They do not play well with others. They should be ostracised.
I enjoy loading ancient desktops with 500mb ram and getting them to work with linux. Puppy will run on near anything.
Don
On 11 November 2017 at 12:25, James Knott via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
On 11/11/2017 11:17 AM, Don Tai wrote:
For me, all desktop brands are interchangeable, as are their components.
I guess you don't remember the Compaqs of a few years ago, that often used proprietary parts. --- Talk Mailing List talk@gtalug.org https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
--- Talk Mailing List talk@gtalug.org https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
-- Evan Leibovitch Toronto, Canada
Em: evan at telly dot org Sk: evanleibovitch Tw: el56
--- Talk Mailing List talk@gtalug.org https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
-- William Park <opengeometry@yahoo.ca>

On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 01:56:19PM -0500, Evan Leibovitch via talk wrote:
FWIW, the brand I have reliably stuck with has been Asus ... as in motherboards.
Yeah I stick with Asus boards in my own desktop machines. Of course for home I would never buy a premade desktop. I want something good and I don't mind putting it together myself. I like doing that part usually (I have one machine that was actually a pain the ass to work on, but I doubt any store would have been willing to assemble that one either. Putting six 4TB drives, a bluray writer, a sabertooth X77 with core i7-3820 and 32GB ram in a home theatre PC case probably qualifies as nuts. It was very hard to get all the cables in the right place).
The last few desktops I have bought for myself have been from Canada Computers; I research the individual components (case, CPU, mobo, video, SSD, etc), and the store will assemble and test together the result for what I consider a nominal fee. This path also makes it easy to buy a system without an OS pre-loaded, so I'm not wasting money on a Windows license I'll not be using; that can be difficult when looking at desktops bought retail (ie, BestBuy or Costco).
-- Len Sorensen

On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 12:25:06PM -0500, James Knott via talk wrote:
On 11/11/2017 11:17 AM, Don Tai wrote:
For me, all desktop brands are interchangeable, as are their components.
I guess you don't remember the Compaqs of a few years ago, that often used proprietary parts.
Dell certainly still does. I have seen some facinating power connectors on motherboards recently. At least they don't look remotely like ATX anymore so you can't confuse them. -- Len Sorensen
participants (5)
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Don Tai
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Evan Leibovitch
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James Knott
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lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca
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William Park