[OT] One Plus One Invite to pass along.

I've got a spare invite to purchase the One Plus One phone. Anyone interested _MUST_ contact me off-list. First come, first serve. Thank you, -- Scott Sullivan

On 12/22/2014 11:36 PM, Scott Sullivan wrote:
I've got a spare invite to purchase the One Plus One phone.
Anyone interested _MUST_ contact me off-list. First come, first serve.
Thank you,
And... wasn't paying attention, the invited expired very recently. False Alarm folks. -- Scott Sullivan

Here's one for sale not requiring an invitation: http://www.geekbuying.com/item/ONEPLUS-ONE-Qualcomm-Core-Smartphone-5-5Inch-... Seems to cost more than the oneplus.net store, though. On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 11:56 PM, Scott Sullivan <scott@ss.org> wrote:
On 12/22/2014 11:36 PM, Scott Sullivan wrote:
I've got a spare invite to purchase the One Plus One phone.
Anyone interested _MUST_ contact me off-list. First come, first serve.
Thank you,
And... wasn't paying attention, the invited expired very recently.
False Alarm folks.
-- Scott Sullivan
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On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 11:36:01PM -0500, Scott Sullivan wrote:
I've got a spare invite to purchase the One Plus One phone.
Anyone interested _MUST_ contact me off-list. First come, first serve.
I am trying to figure out what makes anyone want to want that phone in particular? Both qualcomm and cyanogenmod have pretty well deserved reputations for being rather hostile to openess. Am I missing something? -- Len Sorensen

| From: Lennart Sorensen <lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> | Both qualcomm and cyanogenmod have pretty well deserved reputations for | being rather hostile to openess. I didn't know this about Cyanogenmod. I use stock firmware on all my Android devices, acting like a dumb consumer (sadly, that's what I am). I just assumed Cyanogenmod was open if I wanted to bother. Is it like dd-wrt? I guess most things about Android are pretend-open (fauxpen?). As time goes by more of the important features are closed source. And "open" was almost always a one way street from Google.

Strange, Cyanogenmod always looked pretty open to me. I never used stock android roms. Since my first Galaxy Ace, I always root them and put another rom. I already used Cyanogenmod, RessurrectionRemix, Paranoid, Mysteryous, SlimBean, AOKP, and a few others I don't recall now. Cyanogenmod paired with OnePlus makes easy to develop firmware and drivers for it, because nobody needs to get the binary blobs and stitch it on the new ROM, the documentation is clear(er), and the people from CM and OnePlus can talk to each other to solve problems. Everybody is wanting this phone because of the great hardware specs (on pair with Galaxy Note 4) and a very low price, beating down every single phone on the same price line, and even beating ones costing twice as much as the OnePlus One... I bought one, it's shipping home... Mauro http://mauro.limeiratem.com - registered Linux User: 294521 Scripture is both history, and a love letter from God. 2014-12-23 16:14 GMT-02:00 D. Hugh Redelmeier <hugh@mimosa.com>:
| From: Lennart Sorensen <lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca>
| Both qualcomm and cyanogenmod have pretty well deserved reputations for | being rather hostile to openess.
I didn't know this about Cyanogenmod. I use stock firmware on all my Android devices, acting like a dumb consumer (sadly, that's what I am). I just assumed Cyanogenmod was open if I wanted to bother. Is it like dd-wrt?
I guess most things about Android are pretend-open (fauxpen?). As time goes by more of the important features are closed source. And "open" was almost always a one way street from Google.
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CyanogenMod becoming less open (last year): http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/23/focal-camera-app-launches-as-standalone-b... On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 2:57 PM, James Knott <james.knott@rogers.com> wrote:
You forgot "delusion".
...and Merry Christmas to you, James. Mike

On 12/23/2014 03:02 PM, Michael Hill wrote:
...and Merry Christmas to you, James.
I prefer "Happy Yuletide". Yule was hijacked by the Christians to create Christmas. Then again, there's always Festivus. ;-) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Festivus

So you're a frustrated Yuler. Incidentally, it's not what you prefer that counts, it's what the well wisher prefers. On 12/24/2014 01:22 PM, James Knott wrote:
On 12/23/2014 03:02 PM, Michael Hill wrote:
...and Merry Christmas to you, James.
I prefer "Happy Yuletide". Yule was hijacked by the Christians to create Christmas. Then again, there's always Festivus. ;-)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Festivus
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On 2014-12-23 01:57 PM, James Knott wrote:
On 12/23/2014 02:49 PM, Mauro Souza wrote:
Scripture is both history, and a love letter from God.
You forgot ...
C'mon James - please don't forget our Code of Conduct: Discrimination We are dedicated to creating and preserving an inclusive, nondiscriminatory environment, regardless of age, gender, gender identity and expression, sexual orientation, disability, physical appearance, body size, race, or religion. from http://gtalug.org/about/code-of-conduct/ cheers, Stewart

On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 01:14:22PM -0500, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote:
I didn't know this about Cyanogenmod. I use stock firmware on all my Android devices, acting like a dumb consumer (sadly, that's what I am). I just assumed Cyanogenmod was open if I wanted to bother. Is it like dd-wrt?
That is my understanding. They used to be open, then the leaders did a dd-wrt and went some other direction and a new project got forked. Certainly supporting a qualcomm device with open code is quite hard. Google has even had trouble getting factory images for nexus phones released because of qualcomm, and qualcomm is the reason the android open source project leader at google resigned.
I guess most things about Android are pretend-open (fauxpen?). As time goes by more of the important features are closed source. And "open" was almost always a one way street from Google.
Oh very much so. Android is not open source in the way most people think of open source. It is developed by google behind closed doors, provided to key partners, then launched on new devices, then the code is released for others to play with. No one outside google (and perhaps they key partners) have any say in what goes into android. -- Len Sorensen

On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 03:17:47PM -0500, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 01:14:22PM -0500, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote:
I didn't know this about Cyanogenmod. I use stock firmware on all my Android devices, acting like a dumb consumer (sadly, that's what I am). I just assumed Cyanogenmod was open if I wanted to bother. Is it like dd-wrt?
That is my understanding. They used to be open, then the leaders did a dd-wrt and went some other direction and a new project got forked. Certainly supporting a qualcomm device with open code is quite hard. Google has even had trouble getting factory images for nexus phones released because of qualcomm, and qualcomm is the reason the android open source project leader at google resigned.
For example: http://www.ootpapps.com/2013/09/cyanogenmod-inc-betrayal-spirit-android/ -- Len Sorensen

I didn't know this about Cyanogenmod. I use stock firmware on all my Android devices, acting like a dumb consumer (sadly, that's what I am). I just assumed Cyanogenmod was open if I wanted to bother. Is it like dd-wrt?
That is my understanding. They used to be open, then the leaders did a dd-wrt and went some other direction and a new project got forked. Certainly supporting a qualcomm device with open code is quite hard. Google has even had trouble getting factory images for nexus phones released because of qualcomm, and qualcomm is the reason the android open source project leader at google resigned.
Len, Thank you for sharing that Len. I also didn't know they had turned toxic. Qualcomm however is an open book. William

On 12/23/2014 11:28 AM, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 11:36:01PM -0500, Scott Sullivan wrote:
I've got a spare invite to purchase the One Plus One phone.
Anyone interested _MUST_ contact me off-list. First come, first serve. I am trying to figure out what makes anyone want to want that phone in particular?
Both qualcomm and cyanogenmod have pretty well deserved reputations for being rather hostile to openess.
Am I missing something?
I use Linux as my primary working environment so what other viable option is there other than Android and derivatives? BlackBerry OS, iOS, and Windows Phone don't have any way of syncing with Linux so that leaves Android, which doesn't require anything other than a Google account to sync. I could probably live with any of those choices but I'm tired of having to use an operating system I don't normally use just to sync the calendar on my phone, as I do now with my Symbian OS Nokia, which syncs (badly) with an application that runs only on Windows. In fact, syncing the calendar on my phone is so convoluted that I just don't bother any more. -- Regards, Clifford Ilkay +1 647-778-8696
participants (11)
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Clifford Ilkay
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D. Hugh Redelmeier
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James Knott
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John Moniz
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Lennart Sorensen
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Mauro Souza
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Michael Hill
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Scott Sullivan
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Stewart C. Russell
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Tim Tisdall
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William Muriithi