On 2021-06-26 2:42 a.m., ac via talk wrote:
On Sat, 26 Jun 2021 01:06:23 -0400 William Park via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
Hi guys, I'm using ThinkPad P15 Gen 1 at work. The keyboard, touchpad, and trackpoint are not what I expected. They feel cheap. My old T450 is better. Is it just me? Or, has anyone notice this also?
not just you, I also am of the opinion that it is cheap crap :( personally I have now started using HP, the quality is just better
Over the last three years my employer has issued me both an HP Elitebook G3 (Intel) and a G6 (AMD). Both have run linux well, both have had trackpoints. The build quality was decent on both, plastic on the G3, aluminum on the G6. The G3 machines had a common screen defect were one corner would develop a backlight hotspot, but it was readily ignorable. HP's dedicate dock for them also worked well, and the USB-C dock option has also been working well on the G6. Getting into the cases has always been easy with just a few screws on the back panel and no-nonesense access to RAM and M.2 slots. The BIOSes include a handy option to swap the fn and ctrl keys, which are reversed compare to thinkpad layouts. Handy for me as I'm used to the thinkpad layout. I do miss the dedicated middle click button that the HPs lack, but middle button emulation (holding buttons 1 & 3) works. -- Scott Sullivan
On 2021-07-01 8:59 a.m., Scott Sullivan via talk wrote:
On 2021-06-26 2:42 a.m., ac via talk wrote:
On Sat, 26 Jun 2021 01:06:23 -0400 William Park via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
Hi guys, I'm using ThinkPad P15 Gen 1 at work. The keyboard, touchpad, and trackpoint are not what I expected. They feel cheap. My old T450 is better. Is it just me? Or, has anyone notice this also?
not just you, I also am of the opinion that it is cheap crap :( personally I have now started using HP, the quality is just better
Over the last three years my employer has issued me both an HP Elitebook G3 (Intel) and a G6 (AMD). Both have run linux well, both have had trackpoints. The build quality was decent on both, plastic on the G3, aluminum on the G6. The G3 machines had a common screen defect were one corner would develop a backlight hotspot, but it was readily ignorable.
HP's dedicate dock for them also worked well, and the USB-C dock option has also been working well on the G6.
Getting into the cases has always been easy with just a few screws on the back panel and no-nonesense access to RAM and M.2 slots.
The BIOSes include a handy option to swap the fn and ctrl keys, which are reversed compare to thinkpad layouts. Handy for me as I'm used to the thinkpad layout. I do miss the dedicated middle click button that the HPs lack, but middle button emulation (holding buttons 1 & 3) works.
How are they for supporting Linux? --dave -- David Collier-Brown, | Always do right. This will gratify System Programmer and Author | some people and astonish the rest davecb@spamcop.net | -- Mark Twain
On Thu, 1 Jul 2021 at 08:59, Scott Sullivan via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
On 2021-06-26 2:42 a.m., ac via talk wrote:
On Sat, 26 Jun 2021 01:06:23 -0400 William Park via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
Hi guys, I'm using ThinkPad P15 Gen 1 at work. The keyboard, touchpad, and trackpoint are not what I expected. They feel cheap. My old T450 is better. Is it just me? Or, has anyone notice this also?
not just you, I also am of the opinion that it is cheap crap :( personally I have now started using HP, the quality is just better
Over the last three years my employer has issued me both an HP Elitebook G3 (Intel) and a G6 (AMD). Both have run linux well, both have had trackpoints. The build quality was decent on both, plastic on the G3, aluminum on the G6. The G3 machines had a common screen defect were one corner would develop a backlight hotspot, but it was readily ignorable.
HP's dedicate dock for them also worked well, and the USB-C dock option has also been working well on the G6.
Getting into the cases has always been easy with just a few screws on the back panel and no-nonesense access to RAM and M.2 slots.
The BIOSes include a handy option to swap the fn and ctrl keys, which are reversed compare to thinkpad layouts. Handy for me as I'm used to the thinkpad layout. I do miss the dedicated middle click button that the HPs lack, but middle button emulation (holding buttons 1 & 3) works.
My experience with HP has mostly been with their consumer-grade machines - which have generally been poor. We ran into them more than most at Repair Cafes, with busted hinges and cracked plastic as the screws sunk in plastic aged and busted ... There seems to be a big difference between their consumer and their "professional" (or whatever you want to call it) lines. I wouldn't ever consider their consumer products after what I've seen of them. -- Giles https://www.gilesorr.com/ gilesorr@gmail.com
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