On 2014-10-07 1:10 PM, Lennart Sorensen wrote:

On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 07:08:04AM -0400, Matt Price wrote:

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Hi folks,

I am trying to switch to zsh from bash. Haven't really gotten many of the benefits yet as I need to learn the advanced globbing syntax, but it seems nice so far. However, the beep is driving my crazy. for ages I've had my bash beep set to a flash, which is far less annoying. in zsh this is apparently accomplished with the ZBEEP shell parameter, but I can't make it work. does anyone have ZBEEP set to a value that actually works for them?

I should say, I am using GNOME and gnome-terminal, which, unlike konsole, does not have an option for changing the bell to a flash, so I think this would have to be accomplished in the shell itself.

I don't care what desktop environment you use, gnome-terminal is a pile of buggy shit. Just use konsole (or even xterm is an improvement).

Sakura is my go to terminal now. It along with oh-my-zsh is a lovely setup if you're new to zsh. It's gigantic, but once you get an idea of what you want you can then pare it down. I have a customized zshrc with years worth of additions so I don't use oh-my-zsh, but I can see the appeal with the colorize and git plugins amongst others. Cheers, Jamon

On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 05:26:28PM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote:

That's a strong bug vague accusation.

What kinds of bugs are you thinking of?

I've recently switched to gnome-terminal from xterm because its use of scalable fonts worked better than the standard xterm bitmap fonts on HiDPI screens.

Misrendering of VT100 codes. Really annoying at times. That being the primary purpose of a terminal, such bugs are unforgivable.

The only bug that I've noticed is that my JOVE editor sometimes is missing a few characters. I've been to lazy to track it down but I'm sure that it is a termcap or G-T discrepency. (The editor has only needed a couple of bug fixes this century -- pretty solid.)

It is very much the terminal doing it wrong, given every other terminal using the same termcap is working fine. And I highly doubt jove has any such bugs given I have seen issues with vim, less and other programs. It is almost as bad as hyperterm on windows was (but not quite). I personally find konsole's tab interface and settings much more useful too. But it was the missing characters and other terminal emulation issues that made me never want to use G-T again. I haven't seen any indication that they care to try and fix it (it is part of gnome after all, where throwing away features every new major version and starting over is normal, and making things users want to use is not actually a priority). Of course konsole went for years with a cut and paste bug where all lines had whitespace appended to the full terminal width when you cut and paste, which was really really annoying too, but at least all the characters are displayed correctly, and they did fix the bug by now. -- Len Sorensen