
Greetings Reading of the announcement of 2 new 'smart' phones at the meeting prompts me to ask the question. Am I the only person who finds that touch screens don't work worth a !@#$%^ using my fingers? Thumb, index and third finger take repeated attempts to get a result where the fourth finger seems to work 'ok' its not very 'comfortable'. I do work with my hands, albeit not like I used to, so I do have calluses (they really aren't as thick as they have been at some times in the past though), - - -- is that possibly why I haven't been able to find a touch screen that 'works'. I haven't only tried one 'brand' of phone either. The iPhone is a little less problematic but not enough so to warrant any kind of purchase from me (that's without the absolutely stupid pricing levels). Have used LG, Samsung and Motorola and the issue is consistent. At this point my opinion on touch screens is that they are over priced gadgets that I would rather not use. Regards Dee

On Wed, 11 Oct 2017 07:08:40 -0500 o1bigtenor via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
Am I the only person who finds that touch screens don't work worth a !@#$%^ using my fingers?
you are not alone. for some basic stuff they are fine, but, in addition to your valuable observations, I frequently find that my fingers are simply just too big and the effort required to operate the various screens accurately, is simply too much... <insert poop emoji here><insert phone emoji here><insert more interesting and relevant emojis here, of course so that more people will understand my communications> maybe the 2020's will be better after all the kids grow up (and some of the present old people have shuffled off the mortal coil / outran the other rats) Andre

I feel your pain.... My big fat sausage like fingers make it nearly impossible for me to use the keyboard interface with less than a 50% error rate unless I have a phone with a 7" screen(I actually had one once). There are multiple kinds of touch screens so possibly you need a phone with the appropriate kind of touch screen. I believe that most phones currently use a capacitive touch technology which has issues with gloved hands or in your case calluses. Another issue that current touch screens have is that they have no tactile feedback. Lots of Blackberry users will attest to the ease of using the physical keyboard and I have heard a couple say that someone will have to pry it out of their cold dead hands. Some research has been done on tactile feedback but it may be a long time before that kind of technology appears in your next phone. On 10/11/2017 08:08 AM, o1bigtenor via talk wrote:
Greetings
Reading of the announcement of 2 new 'smart' phones at the meeting prompts me to ask the question.
Am I the only person who finds that touch screens don't work worth a !@#$%^ using my fingers?
Thumb, index and third finger take repeated attempts to get a result where the fourth finger seems to work 'ok' its not very 'comfortable'. I do work with my hands, albeit not like I used to, so I do have calluses (they really aren't as thick as they have been at some times in the past though), - - -- is that possibly why I haven't been able to find a touch screen that 'works'.
I haven't only tried one 'brand' of phone either. The iPhone is a little less problematic but not enough so to warrant any kind of purchase from me (that's without the absolutely stupid pricing levels). Have used LG, Samsung and Motorola and the issue is consistent.
At this point my opinion on touch screens is that they are over priced gadgets that I would rather not use.
Regards
Dee
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On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 8:08 AM, o1bigtenor via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
Greetings
Reading of the announcement of 2 new 'smart' phones at the meeting prompts me to ask the question.
What are the new phones? I'm guessing they are the Libre M from Purism ( https://puri.sm/ ) and possibly the Sony SailfishX in cooperation w/ Jolla ( https://jolla.com/sailfishx/ ) but I'm always keen to hear of others. -jason

On 11/10/17 09:34 AM, Jason Shaw via talk wrote:
On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 8:08 AM, o1bigtenor via talk <talk@gtalug.org <mailto:talk@gtalug.org>> wrote:
Greetings
Reading of the announcement of 2 new 'smart' phones at the meeting prompts me to ask the question.
What are the new phones? I'm guessing they are the Libre M from Purism ( https://puri.sm/ ) and possibly the Sony SailfishX in cooperation w/ Jolla ( https://jolla.com/sailfishx/ ) but I'm always keen to hear of others.
Announce is the wrong term, because it was idle conversation on the sidelines and at the social. But Dee is referencing my post with the subject "In Conversation". https://gtalug.org/pipermail/talk/2017-October/005364.html -- Scott Sullivan

What are the new phones? I'm guessing they are the Libre M from Purism ( https://puri.sm/ ) and possibly the Sony SailfishX in cooperation w/ Jolla ( https://jolla.com/sailfishx/ ) but I'm always keen to hear of others.
Announce is the wrong term, because it was idle conversation on the sidelines and at the social. But Dee is referencing my post with the subject "In Conversation".
https://gtalug.org/pipermail/talk/2017-October/005364.html
-- Scott Sullivan
That'll teach me to read all my unread emails before responding :) Thanks!

small phone, big hands = bad small phone, small hands = possible, though I make a lot of mistakes. I really hate the autocorrect. large phone, small hands = good large phone, large hands = muddle through You really cannot find a small phone anymore. I have a new Honda car and the touch screen is not sensitive enough. These screens are a work in progress. Don On 11 October 2017 at 09:34, Jason Shaw via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 8:08 AM, o1bigtenor via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
Greetings
Reading of the announcement of 2 new 'smart' phones at the meeting prompts me to ask the question.
What are the new phones? I'm guessing they are the Libre M from Purism ( https://puri.sm/ ) and possibly the Sony SailfishX in cooperation w/ Jolla ( https://jolla.com/sailfishx/ ) but I'm always keen to hear of others.
-jason
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On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 07:08:40AM -0500, o1bigtenor via talk wrote:
Greetings
Reading of the announcement of 2 new 'smart' phones at the meeting prompts me to ask the question.
Am I the only person who finds that touch screens don't work worth a !@#$%^ using my fingers?
Thumb, index and third finger take repeated attempts to get a result where the fourth finger seems to work 'ok' its not very 'comfortable'. I do work with my hands, albeit not like I used to, so I do have calluses (they really aren't as thick as they have been at some times in the past though), - - -- is that possibly why I haven't been able to find a touch screen that 'works'.
I haven't only tried one 'brand' of phone either. The iPhone is a little less problematic but not enough so to warrant any kind of purchase from me (that's without the absolutely stupid pricing levels). Have used LG, Samsung and Motorola and the issue is consistent.
At this point my opinion on touch screens is that they are over priced gadgets that I would rather not use.
I know at least one person that can not use capacitive touch screens. They just don't work. The older resistive touch screens work fine, but of course those can't do multitouch so no one seems to want to put those in phones anymore. I guess using touch screen compatible gloves don't help? The person I know of with the problem works as a gardener, so perhaps it is a thick skin issue for people that do actual work. -- Len Sorensen
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