Greetings Debian has been holding back updates on language updates like GCC for some 3 or more months at this point. I had been waiting to update my system hoping that I could get things all together as it were. Today I bit the bullet and upgraded a whole bunch of stuff. Anyone know why this, imho important, software is being held with no updates for so long? TIA
Just switch to openSUSE Tumbleweed, you will always be on the latest path and the releases are solid. I switched away from Ubuntu after so many years a while back and I am so glad I did. If you miss Debian, or need to do some dev work for it, you can always install KVM and run any Linux distro or Windows off it if you have a decent modern PC with a min of 16GB of ram. On Sun, Nov 1, 2020 at 11:13 AM o1bigtenor via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
Greetings
Debian has been holding back updates on language updates like GCC for some 3 or more months at this point. I had been waiting to update my system hoping that I could get things all together as it were. Today I bit the bullet and upgraded a whole bunch of stuff.
Anyone know why this, imho important, software is being held with no updates for so long?
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On Thu, Nov 05, 2020 at 08:30:03PM -0500, Dev Guy via talk wrote:
Just switch to openSUSE Tumbleweed, you will always be on the latest path and the releases are solid. I switched away from Ubuntu after so many years a while back and I am so glad I did.
If I wanted something like that I would use Mint DE. I don't ever want to go back to an rpm based distribution. Too painful. For me personally, Debian unstable is great. -- Len Sorensen
On 2020-11-01 11:12, o1bigtenor via talk wrote:
Greetings
Debian has been holding back updates on language updates like GCC for some 3 or more months at this point. I had been waiting to update my system hoping that I could get things all together as it were. Today I bit the bullet and upgraded a whole bunch of stuff.
Anyone know why this, imho important, software is being held with no updates for so long?
I think the GCC maintainers have been focused on getting gcc-10 ready in Bullseye: https://lists.debian.org/debian-gcc/2020/07/msg00001.html So I suspect unless there were security issues, they've been working on that in sid and testing. Cheers, Jamon
On Sun, Nov 01, 2020 at 10:12:59AM -0600, o1bigtenor via talk wrote:
Debian has been holding back updates on language updates like GCC for some 3 or more months at this point. I had been waiting to update my system hoping that I could get things all together as it were. Today I bit the bullet and upgraded a whole bunch of stuff.
Anyone know why this, imho important, software is being held with no updates for so long?
If there are other packages that it breaks, they are probably trying to coordinate having everything ready before they move everything together. They are generally quite good at handling these transitions. New gcc versions are generally quite good at breaking stuff after all. I still haven't tracked down why gcc 9 broke some scipy fortran code, while gcc 8 compiles it just fine. It fails to link due to missing symbols for functions that are clearly in the code. I haven't checked if gcc 10 fixes the problem, since I have other things to deal with. -- Len Sorensen
On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 9:38 AM Lennart Sorensen <lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
On Sun, Nov 01, 2020 at 10:12:59AM -0600, o1bigtenor via talk wrote:
Debian has been holding back updates on language updates like GCC for some 3 or more months at this point. I had been waiting to update my system hoping that I could get things all together as it were. Today I bit the bullet and upgraded a whole bunch of stuff.
Anyone know why this, imho important, software is being held with no updates for so long?
If there are other packages that it breaks, they are probably trying to coordinate having everything ready before they move everything together. They are generally quite good at handling these transitions.
New gcc versions are generally quite good at breaking stuff after all. I still haven't tracked down why gcc 9 broke some scipy fortran code, while gcc 8 compiles it just fine. It fails to link due to missing symbols for functions that are clearly in the code. I haven't checked if gcc 10 fixes the problem, since I have other things to deal with.
Greetings Sounds like I need to wait - - - - maybe things will get straightened out before they move to then next stable version. (I'm running testing.) Thanks folks!
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