Re: [GTALUG] "'Opens source' is not 'free software'"
On 07/13/2017 10:02 AM, ac via talk wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 09:37:12 -0400 lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca (Lennart Sorensen) wrote:
they want. So yes the GPL gives each user less freedom in the interest of giving all users that same level of freedom in using the code.
Different goal.
I know what you are trying to say, but...
end users of gpl or bsd code have exactly the same freedom.
developers using bsd code and dev using gpl code have different freedoms.
and as you said, and I said in my original reply, depends on the goal(s) - as they are different
Andre
I believe the difference is that BSD allows an end user to take the code and make the code part of a closed product where enchantments and changes to the code are not shared. So the next person in the chain cannot have the advantage of access to the source. I believe that the Microsoft network stack is an example of this, where MS took the BSD network stack and incorporated it into Windows but none of the BSD code or changes were visible to purchasers or normal developers of Windows. Its about propagation of freedom. -- Alvin Starr || land: (905)513-7688 Netvel Inc. || Cell: (416)806-0133 alvin@netvel.net ||
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 10:24:47 -0400 Alvin Starr via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
I believe the difference is that BSD allows an end user to take the code and make the code part of a closed product where enchantments and changes to the code are not shared.
So the next person in the chain cannot have the advantage of access to the source.
I believe that the Microsoft network stack is an example of this, where MS took the BSD network stack and incorporated it into Windows but none of the BSD code or changes were visible to purchasers or normal developers of Windows.
Its about propagation of freedom.
hey Alvin, long time no chat :) Imagine how much more Windows would have sucked if it was not for BSD licensing :) seriously though, sometimes it is in the best interest of everyone to have dev freedom... Let me mention PostgreSQL, which has spawned many small companies, which has allowed companies to 'own' their own customizations and enabled many (like me) to offer the single end user, their own code - some of the customizations to that codebase would never be of much benefit to anyone, except the company paying for the dev... Heck, PostgreSQL even spawned entire companies... Anyway, the debate is not like religion at all (as someone else said) it is actual application - BSD licensing has its place and GPL licensing has its very important place... Andre
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