The good old days of oreilly.com
Hi folks I hadn't logged on to Oreilly.com in several years, and today I had a reason to do so. I had been a frequent purchaser of Oreilly books at one time, and recently I had become interested in their Raspberry Pi Cookbook, and decided to used my old login to their site and see if it was offered there. The search only led me to a 404, and that it wouldn't show me anything unless I paid a subscription fee. WTF? I recall I had had a number of PDF bookmarks to previous purchases of other titles of their books. All gone. Sorry if I was out of the loop. I was hoping to just order the book; preferably a PDF. Is Amazon in control of everything now? Paul
On 2023-04-30 11:19, sciguy via talk wrote:
Hi folks
I hadn't logged on to Oreilly.com in several years, and today I had a reason to do so. I had been a frequent purchaser of Oreilly books at one time, and recently I had become interested in their Raspberry Pi Cookbook, and decided to used my old login to their site and see if it was offered there. The search only led me to a 404, and that it wouldn't show me anything unless I paid a subscription fee. WTF?
I recall I had had a number of PDF bookmarks to previous purchases of other titles of their books. All gone. Sorry if I was out of the loop. I was hoping to just order the book; preferably a PDF. Is Amazon in control of everything now?
I have also bought a lot of their books. They are apparently still there, but you can't get to them from their home page. You can find them, if you search on a title.
On 2023-04-30 11:24, James Knott via talk wrote:
On 2023-04-30 11:19, sciguy via talk wrote:
Hi folks
I hadn't logged on to Oreilly.com in several years, and today I had a reason to do so. I had been a frequent purchaser of Oreilly books at one time, and recently I had become interested in their Raspberry Pi Cookbook, and decided to used my old login to their site and see if it was offered there. The search only led me to a 404, and that it wouldn't show me anything unless I paid a subscription fee. WTF?
I recall I had had a number of PDF bookmarks to previous purchases of other titles of their books. All gone. Sorry if I was out of the loop. I was hoping to just order the book; preferably a PDF. Is Amazon in control of everything now?
I have also bought a lot of their books. They are apparently still there, but you can't get to them from their home page. You can find them, if you search on a title.
I am having very little luck poking around. And to correct what I said earlier, searching specific titles leads me to a "403" error (Forbidden), not a 404 as I had said. I searched on Programming Perl, which I have the second and fourth editions, and got a "403" when I clicked on the title. The message below reads: "Your free O’Reilly trial has ended, making this content unavailable to view. For unlimited access to all O’Reilly has to offer, purchase a membership here." I also notice that on the titles I see, there are no "purchase" links, just "read" links. It sounds like for the $50 or so monthly fee, you can read anything you like. Still not sold on the idea, but clearly they have changed their marketing model. Paul
On 2023-04-30 12:04, sciguy via talk wrote:
I am having very little luck poking around. And to correct what I said earlier, searching specific titles leads me to a "403" error (Forbidden), not a 404 as I had said. I searched on Programming Perl, which I have the second and fourth editions, and got a "403" when I clicked on the title. The message below reads: "Your free O’Reilly trial has ended, making this content unavailable to view. For unlimited access to all O’Reilly has to offer, purchase a membership here." I also notice that on the titles I see, there are no "purchase" links, just "read" links. It sounds like for the $50 or so monthly fee, you can read anything you like. Still not sold on the idea, but clearly they have changed their marketing model.
Search on Google for the book title. Also, you can try https://members.oreilly.com/ and log in with your ID and password.
While this won't get you your O'Reilly titles back, Toronto Public Library has full O'Reilly Safari access for members. I find it useful for dipping into those books I couldn't quite ever justify buying. Stewart
On 2023-04-30 12:10, James Knott via talk wrote:
On 2023-04-30 12:04, sciguy via talk wrote:
I am having very little luck poking around. And to correct what I said earlier, searching specific titles leads me to a "403" error (Forbidden), not a 404 as I had said. I searched on Programming Perl, which I have the second and fourth editions, and got a "403" when I clicked on the title. The message below reads: "Your free O’Reilly trial has ended, making this content unavailable to view. For unlimited access to all O’Reilly has to offer, purchase a membership here." I also notice that on the titles I see, there are no "purchase" links, just "read" links. It sounds like for the $50 or so monthly fee, you can read anything you like. Still not sold on the idea, but clearly they have changed their marketing model.
Search on Google for the book title. Also, you can try https://members.oreilly.com/ and log in with your ID and password.
Bingo! The link to members.oreilly.com got me what I wanted! Thanks! Paul
I had purchased several books over the years. I can successfully login in to members.oreilly.com, but it shows 0 purchases. ...sucks... On Sun, 30 Apr 2023 at 12:41, sciguy via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
On 2023-04-30 12:10, James Knott via talk wrote:
On 2023-04-30 12:04, sciguy via talk wrote:
I am having very little luck poking around. And to correct what I said earlier, searching specific titles leads me to a "403" error (Forbidden), not a 404 as I had said. I searched on Programming Perl, which I have the second and fourth editions, and got a "403" when I clicked on the title. The message below reads: "Your free O’Reilly trial has ended, making this content unavailable to view. For unlimited access to all O’Reilly has to offer, purchase a membership here." I also notice that on the titles I see, there are no "purchase" links, just "read" links. It sounds like for the $50 or so monthly fee, you can read anything you like. Still not sold on the idea, but clearly they have changed their marketing model.
Search on Google for the book title. Also, you can try https://members.oreilly.com/ and log in with your ID and password.
Bingo! The link to members.oreilly.com got me what I wanted! Thanks!
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On 2023-04-30 13:11, David Mason via talk wrote:
I had purchased several books over the years.
I can successfully login in to members.oreilly.com <http://members.oreilly.com>, but it shows 0 purchases.
Mine are there and available for download.
Come to think of it, the ten books on my list are missing a lot of books. Also, I don't think I am able to add my current purchases there any longer. It just lets me muck about with my profile, but not add more recently purchased books. On 2023-04-30 13:11, David Mason wrote:
I had purchased several books over the years.
I can successfully login in to members.oreilly.com [1], but it shows 0 purchases.
...sucks...
oreilly.com has been a subscription service for a while. Searching for Oreilly books on Amazon or Chapters will yield some results, though most of what they've produced in the last five years seems to be selling for CAD$70 or more. GitOps Cookbook: Kubernetes Automation in Practice <https://www.amazon.ca/GitOps-Cookbook-Kubernetes-Automation-Practice/dp/1492097470/ref=sr_1_13>, released this February, goes for $95. They're still using animals on the covers ... but it's now just photos, not the old style of lithographs. Surprised to see some titles like "Windows XP in a Nutshell" are still in stock at their regular price and not in a bargain bin. "Python in a Nutshell", also released in February, sells for $110. I have some old nutshell handbooks which I bought in the days when they were bargains compared to the Sybex and other books in the field. I also have a few of those old SSC/LinuxJournal pocket guides. But that was from back when there was nothing called Google to ask for video tutorials or man pages available faster than you could reach for your bookshelf. And there weren't AI-powered chat systems that could churn out usable code and admin scripts on demand. Evan Leibovitch, Toronto Canada @evanleibovitch / @el56 On Sun, Apr 30, 2023 at 1:16 PM sciguy via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
Come to think of it, the ten books on my list are missing a lot of books. Also, I don't think I am able to add my current purchases there any longer. It just lets me muck about with my profile, but not add more recently purchased books.
On 2023-04-30 13:11, David Mason wrote:
I had purchased several books over the years.
I can successfully login in to members.oreilly.com [1], but it shows 0 purchases.
...sucks...
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On Sun, Apr 30, 2023 at 12:04:56PM -0400, sciguy via talk wrote:
I am having very little luck poking around. And to correct what I said earlier, searching specific titles leads me to a "403" error (Forbidden), not a 404 as I had said. I searched on Programming Perl, which I have the second and fourth editions, and got a "403" when I clicked on the title. The message below reads: "Your free O’Reilly trial has ended, making this content unavailable to view. For unlimited access to all O’Reilly has to offer, purchase a membership here." I also notice that on the titles I see, there are no "purchase" links, just "read" links. It sounds like for the $50 or so monthly fee, you can read anything you like. Still not sold on the idea, but clearly they have changed their marketing model.
It used to be you could access most of their books if you had the ACM digital library, but that stopped last year sometime, around the same time they apparently stopped actually selling books as far as I can tell. Apparently ebooks.com still sells O'Reilly books though. -- Len Sorensen
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