Did I buy the wrong network card? (RTL8812AE)
Hi - For the new computer I just built, I bought a D-Link DWA-582 802.11ac PCIe adapter. It's based on the Realtek RTL8812AE chipset. Does anyone know the particular magic to get these going, please?
From the start on Ubuntu Gnome, the card would work for about 15 minutes, then disassociate itself from the router. It might occasionally spring back to life for a few minutes, but there didn't seem to be anything special I was doing to get it reconnected.
I've updated the firmware blob(s) from the Realtek linux maintainer's site. Older posts about this chipset say it's a power management problem, but the newest firmware supposedly fixes this. Should I have bought a different card? What 802.11ac cards work for people here? I'm not super keen on drilling holes in the floor to snake an ethernet cable up from the basement. cheers, Stewart
I wish we'd covered wifi when building out your machine. It somehow just got missed/assumed by me you would be wired. I've got a Intel 7260 mPCIe card sitting spare. It came off a mini-itx board that wasn't going to need it (I substituted in a mPCIe 4-port USB3 card instead). This one specifically. https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Intel_Dual_Band_Wireless-AC_7260_(7260HMW) Just needs an adapter like this for your purposes. I have the Antenna it came with. https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA9UP3HC0702 Or if you want to buy a complete set outright: https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA7RD2WW7170 https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Intel_Dual_Band_Wireless-AC_7260_(7260HMWDTX1) On 13/05/17 07:40 AM, Stewart C. Russell via talk wrote:
Hi - For the new computer I just built, I bought a D-Link DWA-582 802.11ac PCIe adapter. It's based on the Realtek RTL8812AE chipset. Does anyone know the particular magic to get these going, please?
From the start on Ubuntu Gnome, the card would work for about 15 minutes, then disassociate itself from the router. It might occasionally spring back to life for a few minutes, but there didn't seem to be anything special I was doing to get it reconnected.
I've updated the firmware blob(s) from the Realtek linux maintainer's site. Older posts about this chipset say it's a power management problem, but the newest firmware supposedly fixes this.
Should I have bought a different card? What 802.11ac cards work for people here? I'm not super keen on drilling holes in the floor to snake an ethernet cable up from the basement.
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I guess you tried the power saving "off" option in this post? https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2348161 as well as other possible solutions? -tl On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 11:06 AM, Scott Sullivan via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
I wish we'd covered wifi when building out your machine. It somehow just got missed/assumed by me you would be wired.
I've got a Intel 7260 mPCIe card sitting spare. It came off a mini-itx board that wasn't going to need it (I substituted in a mPCIe 4-port USB3 card instead).
This one specifically. https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Intel_Dual_Band_Wireless-AC_7260_(7260HMW)
Just needs an adapter like this for your purposes. I have the Antenna it came with. https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA9UP3HC0702
Or if you want to buy a complete set outright: https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA7RD2WW7170 https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Intel_Dual_Band_Wireless-AC_7260_(7260HMWDTX1)
On 13/05/17 07:40 AM, Stewart C. Russell via talk wrote:
Hi - For the new computer I just built, I bought a D-Link DWA-582 802.11ac PCIe adapter. It's based on the Realtek RTL8812AE chipset. Does anyone know the particular magic to get these going, please?
From the start on Ubuntu Gnome, the card would work for about 15 minutes, then disassociate itself from the router. It might occasionally spring back to life for a few minutes, but there didn't seem to be anything special I was doing to get it reconnected.
I've updated the firmware blob(s) from the Realtek linux maintainer's site. Older posts about this chipset say it's a power management problem, but the newest firmware supposedly fixes this.
Should I have bought a different card? What 802.11ac cards work for people here? I'm not super keen on drilling holes in the floor to snake an ethernet cable up from the basement.
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On 2017-05-13 11:24 AM, ted leslie via talk wrote:
I guess you tried the power saving "off" option in this post? https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2348161 as well as other possible solutions?
Yes, I have, thanks. It's kind of annoying that the maintainer said that firmware more recent than that post made all the problems go away and superseding the need to do modprobe/power management tricks. I now have the newest firmware, plus /etc/modprobe.d/rtl8821ae.conf : options rtl8821ae fwlps=N and /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/default-wifi-powersave-on.conf : [connection] wifi.powersave = 2 but still I get dissociations every 10 minutes or so. It's particularly annoying to see logs like this: [Sat May 13 12:50:39 2017] wlp4s0: deauthenticated from 14:91:82:2e:8b:51 (Reason: 2=PREV_AUTH_NOT_VALID) [Sat May 13 12:50:42 2017] wlp4s0: authenticate with 14:91:82:2e:8b:51 [Sat May 13 12:50:42 2017] wlp4s0: send auth to 14:91:82:2e:8b:51 (try 1/3) [Sat May 13 12:50:42 2017] wlp4s0: authenticated [Sat May 13 12:50:42 2017] wlp4s0: associating with AP with corrupt probe response [Sat May 13 12:50:42 2017] wlp4s0: associate with 14:91:82:2e:8b:51 (try 1/3) [Sat May 13 12:50:42 2017] wlp4s0: RX AssocResp from 14:91:82:2e:8b:51 (capab=0x511 status=0 aid=13) [Sat May 13 12:50:42 2017] wlp4s0: associated [Sat May 13 12:50:42 2017] wlp4s0: Limiting TX power to 20 (23 - 3) dBm as advertised by 14:91:82:2e:8b:51 The network had long be unreachable before the first 'deauthenticated' at 12:50:39, but there were no log messages given. Then it decides to reconnect as if nothing had gone wrong previously. cheers, Stewart
On 2017-05-13 11:06 AM, Scott Sullivan via talk wrote:
I've got a Intel 7260 mPCIe card sitting spare.
That reminds me - I think I have an Intel 6235 from my foray into (and sudden horrified retreat from) Intel Galileo world. Yes, it was a very slow, very hot Arduino running on a Pentium running Yocto Linux (eww!) but with 5 GHz wifi exposing a password-free root shell over ssh. That mPCIe to desktop adaptor looks handy to know about. Thanks for the tip! Stewart
On 2017-05-13 11:06 AM, Scott Sullivan via talk wrote:
I wish we'd covered wifi when building out your machine. It somehow just got missed/assumed by me you would be wired.
No worries. At least these cards aren't super expensive.
I've got a Intel 7260 mPCIe card sitting spare.
Thank you! But I noticed that for not much more than that adapter card and faster shipping, Newegg has a 7260-based Asus ASUS PCE-AC55BT adapter on open box special. I went with that. cheers, Stewart
On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 11:06:53AM -0400, Scott Sullivan via talk wrote:
I wish we'd covered wifi when building out your machine. It somehow just got missed/assumed by me you would be wired.
I've got a Intel 7260 mPCIe card sitting spare. It came off a mini-itx board that wasn't going to need it (I substituted in a mPCIe 4-port USB3 card instead).
This one specifically. https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Intel_Dual_Band_Wireless-AC_7260_(7260HMW)
Just needs an adapter like this for your purposes. I have the Antenna it came with. https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA9UP3HC0702
Or if you want to buy a complete set outright: https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA7RD2WW7170 https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Intel_Dual_Band_Wireless-AC_7260_(7260HMWDTX1)
Yes you absolutely get that set. -- Len Sorensen
On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 7:40 AM, Stewart C. Russell via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
Hi - For the new computer I just built, I bought a D-Link DWA-582 802.11ac PCIe adapter. It's based on the Realtek RTL8812AE chipset. Does anyone know the particular magic to get these going, please?
From the start on Ubuntu Gnome, the card would work for about 15 minutes, then disassociate itself from the router. It might occasionally spring back to life for a few minutes, but there didn't seem to be anything special I was doing to get it reconnected.
I've updated the firmware blob(s) from the Realtek linux maintainer's site. Older posts about this chipset say it's a power management problem, but the newest firmware supposedly fixes this.
Should I have bought a different card? What 802.11ac cards work for people here? I'm not super keen on drilling holes in the floor to snake an ethernet cable up from the basement.
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This might be an ILP (Instruction Level Parallelisim) feature of systemd init. Take a look at how systemd deals with IVP routing tables using network.target here. https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/NetworkTarget/ Specifically, the section titled. Cut the crap! How do I make network.target work for me? Hope this helps. -- Russell Sent by K-9 Mail
On 2017-05-13 12:24 PM, Russell wrote:
This might be an ILP (Instruction Level Parallelisim) feature of systemd init.
Take a look at how systemd deals with IVP routing tables using network.target here.
https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/NetworkTarget/
Thanks, but I'm getting network, then it's periodically cutting out. This seems to be more waiting for systemd to say "No, really, we've got a network available" to services, rather than the network giving out. We get to answer a lot of questions about systemd and network on the Raspberry Pi forum, mostly about @reboot cron jobs not finding the network. Thanks, though. I suspect I'll have to make do with a very basic USB wifi adapter (I bought Far Too Many for Raspberry Pis) until Scott's suggested mPCIe adapter arrives. cheers, Stewart
Thanks, though. I suspect I'll have to make do with a very basic USB wifi adapter (I bought Far Too Many for Raspberry Pis) until Scott's suggested mPCIe adapter arrives. The Intel 6235 you mentioned, are it's antenna and leads two parts, like in the mPCIe adapter photos? Or are they a single piece ending in only
On 13/05/17 01:55 PM, Stewart C. Russell via talk wrote: the little connector that clips to the mpcie card? If the Intel's antenna are single piece, then I have spare dual band antenna you can have. Just don't use the once that ship with that adapter as they weren't designed for dual band. Just let me know if you need any help doing setup. -- Scott Sullivan
On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 1:55 PM, Stewart C. Russell via talk < talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
On 2017-05-13 12:24 PM, Russell wrote:
This might be an ILP (Instruction Level Parallelisim) feature of systemd
init.
Take a look at how systemd deals with IVP routing tables using
network.target here.
https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/NetworkTarget/
Thanks, but I'm getting network, then it's periodically cutting out. This seems to be more waiting for systemd to say "No, really, we've got a network available" to services, rather than the network giving out. We get to answer a lot of questions about systemd and network on the Raspberry Pi forum, mostly about @reboot cron jobs not finding the network.
For now, perhaps you could help me out? Are you getting this following usbhid endpoint error? usbhid 1-2:1.0: couldn't find an input interrupt endpoint Also sorry I wasn't clear in my earlier post. The page link I provided was to the page NetworkTarget. network.target itself only indicates that the network management stack is up after it has been reached, It was the stuff below the "Cut the crap! How do I make network.target work for me", that I was referring to. The reason I ask is that, here on my stock Debian, I seem to have some confusion as an endpoint buffer, which firstly needs an endpoint descriptor, doesn't get one. If a service doesn't return NAK or STALL, the result seems to be a missing link beat. Once a core system acquires the target, you should be able to track that target by its Endpoint device description tables, in theory anyway. However, when something tries to shove a big endian bit into a little endian bucket, stuff is bound to spill over and mux something up. So far, I was able to sort out my own printer/scanner and a non-persistent scanner, by defining /lib/systemd/system - saned@.service -saned.socket Right now for a NTP issue I'm studying - After=network-online.target -Wants=network-online.target I dont have network dropping issue but some people who are dropping networks after the initial poll might have luck with. systemctl enable ifup-wait-all-auto.service Below is a quote from another link which also contains the suggested contents of ifup-wait-all-auto.service. https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/209832/debian-systemd-network-onlin... "Throw that beauty in /etc/systemd/system/ifup-wait-all-auto.service, install it with sudo systemctl enable ifup-wait-all-auto.service, and then actually have the network-online.target references in your systemd unit definitions work properly."
Thanks, though. I suspect I'll have to make do with a very basic USB wifi adapter (I bought Far Too Many for Raspberry Pis) until Scott's suggested mPCIe adapter arrives.
cheers, Stewart
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Hi Russell -
For now, perhaps you could help me out? Are you getting this following usbhid endpoint error?
usbhid 1-2:1.0: couldn't find an input interrupt endpoint
No, I'm not. The Asus card is PCIe. I'm sure I have plenty of other usb devices that will create issues, but mercifully this isn't it. cheers, Stewart
On May 15, 2017 9:13 AM, "Stewart C. Russell via talk" <talk@gtalug.org> wrote: Hi Russell -
For now, perhaps you could help me out? Are you getting this following usbhid endpoint error?
usbhid 1-2:1.0: couldn't find an input interrupt endpoint
No, I'm not. The Asus card is PCIe. I'm sure I have plenty of other usb devices that will create issues, but mercifully this isn't it. Ok, now it really looks like an LSB init and rpc bind issue to me. If you check my other post from this morning - ntpdate now works but I'm still losing memory to zombie endpoints. I changed the subject on that post to reflect the not so different issues and possible solution pathways. cheers, Stewart --- Talk Mailing List talk@gtalug.org https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 07:40:21AM -0400, Stewart C. Russell via talk wrote:
Hi - For the new computer I just built, I bought a D-Link DWA-582 802.11ac PCIe adapter. It's based on the Realtek RTL8812AE chipset. Does anyone know the particular magic to get these going, please?
From the start on Ubuntu Gnome, the card would work for about 15 minutes, then disassociate itself from the router. It might occasionally spring back to life for a few minutes, but there didn't seem to be anything special I was doing to get it reconnected.
I've updated the firmware blob(s) from the Realtek linux maintainer's site. Older posts about this chipset say it's a power management problem, but the newest firmware supposedly fixes this.
Should I have bought a different card? What 802.11ac cards work for people here? I'm not super keen on drilling holes in the floor to snake an ethernet cable up from the basement.
You get this one: http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/wireless-products/dual-band-wireless-... -- Len Sorensen
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That depends on where you are in town. Sayal probably has it, but they're in Mississauga or Markham. You can also try The Source. Their web site shows: https://www.thesource.ca/en-ca/audio-and-headphones/portable-audio/portable-... There is also this at Canadian Tire: http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/motomaster-electrical-contact-cleaner-150-... This is probably a better product than The Source. Other electrical/electronic supply stores would likely have it too. On 05/15/2017 03:46 PM, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote:
Hi folks, I am really wanting to just find a local store, and thought it would be easier. I need contact cleaner for some stereo speaker connections. something like crc quick dry. Any idea where I can find this in town? Thanks so much, Kare
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Found some at home hardware a few weeks ago. Martin On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Karen Lewellen via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
Hi folks, I am really wanting to just find a local store, and thought it would be easier. I need contact cleaner for some stereo speaker connections. something like crc quick dry. Any idea where I can find this in town? Thanks so much, Kare
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Scott Allen -
Scott Sullivan -
Stewart C. Russell -
ted leslie