On 06/27/2016 08:35 PM, Russell Reiter via talk wrote:

On Jun 27, 2016 7:59 PM, "Michael Galea via talk" <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
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> On 06/26/16 10:39, Russell Reiter wrote:
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> Now, I have to say, if you have ANY experience with electric utilities I would imagine you are positively laughing by now. When one utility CEO was recently asked how they slept at night they replied "Just like a baby, I sleep for two hours and then I cry until morning".
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This is the dichotomy of private ownership of public utilities.

I rather liked your earlier comment along the line of; in order to break even in an environment which squeezes out the small but innovative operations, you would need to reuse/sell any excess heat generated.

On a side note, I believe there was a steam plant downtown which serviced several commercial buildings for heating at one time. I think I also read about a deep water shared cooling project here in the city but I haven't heard anything lately.

Your thinking of Enwave.
There are a fair number of buildings using Enwave heating and cooling.
I had an office in an Enwave building at Adelaide and Victoria.
They ripped out the steam boilers and were using only the steam from Enwave freeing up a bunch of space in the basement for things like backup generators.
Enwave also provides the deep lake cold water to areas West of Yonge(as of a few years ago) I would be willing to bet that 151 Front uses Enwave.
Enwave also runs a generating facility where the waste heat is used as part of the steam sold to the other buildings.

I guess my point is that; blending technologies happens over time and usually over the objections of the for profit status quo.

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