| From: Dhaval Giani via talk <talk@gtalug.org> | https://lwn.net/Articles/764901/ | https://www.jonobacon.com/2018/09/16/linus-his-apology-and-why-we-should-sup... Thanks. I hadn't noticed this. A possibly big story. | On a more personal note, I have seen "hostile" behavior on many mailing | lists, which has led me from withdrawing from participating on them. Mailing lists are notoriously bad at communicating emothions. I guess that causes some to just amp things up. There have been many discussions of this phenomenon and I still don't have great insights. I have not found this mailing list to be a problem. Have you? Be conservative in what you do, be liberal in what you accept from others. Jon Postel Some things can seem like slights even when there was no such intent. Death threats are hard to explain away. I did not read Linus' comment about abortion to be a deat threat. Just overly colourful swearing. I did not think it appropriate. "Criticize the sin, not the sinner." This has low reliability, so take it with a large grain of salt, but the only time I met Lennart Poettering (before systemd) he did seem arrogant. I've not made any contributions to the kernel / netdev. I've found the processs daunting / unwelcoming. At least one "lieutenant" has been much more unpleasant than Linus. Just fixing Linus isn't enough. Have a look at this thread, especially how it is left (in my mind) unresolved after I did the legwork to refute Miller's assertion. <https://www.spinics.net/lists/netdev/msg342321.html>