On Fri, 19 Jan 2024 22:44:01 -0500
Alvin Starr via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:

I have a client who buys systems from https://www.servergiant.net/
I have also bought systems from them.
The prices will not be as cheap as a minipc from amazon but you can
get a decent HP or Dell tower system.

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On 1/19/24 17:53, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote:  

| From: Peter King via talk<talk@gtalug.org>

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<https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.ca%2FBeelink-Computer-4-0GHz-Screen-Display%2Fdp%2FB09SYSPSSM%2Fref%3Dsr_1_12&data=05%7C02%7Cpeter.king%40utoronto.ca%7Ca97ddf7fa2d44dd6541c08dc19417faf%7C78aac2262f034b4d9037b46d56c55210%7C0%7C0%7C638413016304615956%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=KiIfTsoqjCi3rn4MMBit7E0irCAeb6bGTr51tb2ISCE%3D&reserved=0>

look at these two "links" above, see whence they came, what they
were and what actually happened :)

to me, it is interesting that there are so very many things (and
increasing at an alarming pace every and each passing day)

Yes: we suffer from that at work, because we use some MS services.

Apparently because users@ utoronto.ca (and microsoft users) send
out malware links and this is a way that Microsoft chooses to try to
protect recipients and their users from malware/abuse - instead of
their users or recipients relying on other software, like browsers,
local anti virus, local script blockers, etc (taking the control away)

We also use a company to send us "practice" phishing emails.  Every single one of those I've received were marked as spam when I submitted them to spamcop.net.  

Spamcop is the service I use for my home emails.