> I'm about 60 cm across the shoulders so a keyboard that's some 35 cm just isn't comfortable. 

I may be 35 cm across the shoulders, that probably explains how I can work using the Thinkpad default keyboard...

I recommend buying a good  keyboard and mouse that feels comfortable, even when they are expensive. Not crazy expensive, but the upper class priced ones. It's almost the entire interface with the computer, so our life gets better when we have good quality gear. My current computer has a touchscreen that I never use, except accidentally and I hate when it happens. I have some friends with mechanical keyboards that cost as much as my car, but make them happy,  so good for them.

I have a PS2 Model M here somewhere, but I need an USB-to-PS2 adapter to use it so it's in a box now. And my current temporary work desk is too small for it, so the default keyboard is all I have. Good thing I don't hate the T490 keyboard nor the T430 keyboard on my personal notebook.

Mauro
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Em qui., 21 de out. de 2021 às 18:05, Jason Shaw via talk <talk@gtalug.org> escreveu:


On Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 16:40 o1bigtenor via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:


On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 2:41 PM D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
| From: Evan Leibovitch via talk <talk@gtalug.org>

|   The emergence of high-end gaming on PCs has led to a quest for
| keyboards that are super-responsive and comfortable for long periods.

Yeah.  That seems like the best place to look.

Beware: I've found their goals are not completely aligned with mine.
Here are some.

One feature that I don't care about is rainbow coloured lights for the
keys.  Benign, but you are paying for this.  On mine (a Razer Blackwidow
Ultimate -- love the names), I've got a green light per key, solidly on
unless I install a daemon to change that.

Another is "tenkeyless" which means "without numeric keypad".  I use
the numeric keypad and don't want to lose it.

Another is low-latency: I've never noticed keyboard latency.

Another is: ugly seems to be valued.

All support n-key rollover, for large n.  This requires sending multiple
USB packets per keystroke.  This in turn confuses the firmware on a couple
of our machines: if we wish to adjust firmware settings, we have to plug
in a different keyboard.  As you can imagine, that took some effort to
figure out.

There are many web pages that describe the colours of switches.
<https://geargaminghub.com/cherry-mx-switches/>

My wife likes "blue" keys (noisy and tactile).
I like "brown" keys (less noisy but tactile).

If you care a lot, you may care about the company that produced the
switches.  I haven't bothered to sudy this aspect.


Interesting comments from all of the responders so far.  
Is anyone using an ergonomic keyboard from this group. 
The old rectangular keyboard makes my hands ache at the 
thought of using only this. I have some cheap keyboards gotten 
with machine purchases - - - my working keyboard for anything 
more than a few keystrokes is an ergonomic version. I'm about 
60 cm across the shoulders so a keyboard that's some 35 cm 
just isn't comfortable. 

I also like my numeric keypad - - - - do a lot of entries on that 
for business use and would like to have it part of the keyboard 
if at all possible. 

I have used the mechanical keys in a very long time - - - think 
I would prefer less noise rather than more but for high quality 
would like give on that! 

Re: gaming - - - - I'm having too fun fun and use far too much time 
on my system without playing any games - - - tend to relax with a 
book (most often a physical copy too).

I switched to a split keyboard about a year ago, a Kinesis freestyle pro, and after a few month learning curve, I honestly can't imagine switching back. My shoulders feel so much better after a day of typing that I can hardly believe it. It has quiet mechanical switches that feel nice and responsive and should be fine for open concept offices. 

Not the cheapest, especially once the tilting kit and wrist rests were added in, but my posture is worth it. 

-jason
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