o1bigtenor wrote on 2023-07-27 14:23:
In my view computers should change to suit humans, not the other way around.
So thankful that I'm not the only one who thinks this way. Is there any way to make this louder
Sounds like you guys hate CLI environments and probably use Siri / Google Assistant / Alexa / *voice* as a near ideal human-like user interface then?
Hmmmmmm - - - - I remember the advertisements early on in microcomputers - - - - you know - - - - "computing your way" implying that an IT department wasn't going to force you to do things the way they wanted. That was considered a great idea - - - - until those same IT departments - - - - now responsible for fleets of microcomputers - - - well - - - they decided that they're the only ones who understand how a computer should be used.
Those IT departments weren't wrong. You may have noticed that the world has changed, and for example, letting users store all their documents all over their PCs is a disaster when it comes to backing up business documents. So, IT removed some options from users, because typical users don't "understand how a computer should be used". Do what you want on your own computers, but at work you cannot store critical documents in C:\WINDOWS\VERYIMPORTANTFINANCIALS\THISMUSTBESAVED.doc
You know - - - - where you only have a gui environment - - - or where you only have a cli environment - - - - or where your cli environment stifles flexibility - - - - (shall I go on ?).
Again, do what you want with *your own* computers. And what's with - - - - the - - - - writing - - - - "style" - - - - ? Is there - - - - a - - - - reason?
Desktop environments take their name and derive the concept from offices in the pre-electronic age. Window managers sound like something only pertinent to computers. Like terminals.
As such the technology makes it easier to work with for most of us. (Except for the idea of 0 being an actual counter as it is in only the computing world.)
I'm confused as to what point you're trying to make now.
Sounds quite un-Linuxy.
What - - - - you're not going to regale us on how you use VT-100 terminals for so very many years as you perfected your use of assembly language?
No, that would be stupid. I'm just pointing out "computers that work like humans" (or "change to suit humans") and "command line interfaces" seem rather mutually exclusive. Humans communicate verbally for the most part until we all learned to type - we changed to work in a more computer-centric manner. And I love working in a CLI. But I'm working in the computer's way, it's not working in a human way. It's highly efficient to know bash, etc., yet shells are rather unlike any human to human communication techniques. Hence my semi-jesting message about how much we really want computers to suit humans, as the computer interfaces that most suit typical humans are anathema to computer geeks and LUG members.