On 4/2/21 10:45 PM, Russell Reiter wrote:
On Fri, Apr 2, 2021, 10:13 PM Alvin Starr via talk, <talk@gtalug.org <mailto:talk@gtalug.org>> wrote:
On 4/2/21 2:29 PM, Russell Reiter via talk wrote:
Red Hat has just dropped its Free Software Foundation funding and support.
Now that Red Hat is pretty well owned by IBM, wouldn't you like to ask all those people, how far back in IBM's own history of misdeeds; notwithstanding rumors, innuendo and just plain gossip; the rest of us should look when judging the actions of others.
I sure would.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust>
Stallman was outspoken about surveillance capitalisim and WSL. Those are big cages to rattle with one tiny tin cup.
Just in case you don't think an NGO is capable of such insider machinations. I highly recommend the following book which has a pretty good evaluation of how the powers that be; leveraged trends, NGO (charity) connections and industry (read IBM) influences which gave Bill Gates his silver spoon running head start with MS DOS.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2760759-the-making-of-microsoft <https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2760759-the-making-of-microsoft>
Don't even get me started on WSL as an organized plan to disrupt linux freedom.
Engage Encompass and Eradicate are proven techniques of imperialism and capitalisim.
I think Red Hats "Woke Spoke" is Broke on this one, but with all that IBM money behind them, they will break this one guy out of the big picture, just because they can.
Russell
I may just be thick but I don't see what any of the above has to do with Surveillance Capitalism.
Or at least my understanding of Surveillance Capitalism that can be described by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surveillance_capitalism <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surveillance_capitalism>
Heres Richard Stallman on open source surveillance capitalisim eight years ago.
OK. But you did not reference anything like this in your original posting. You kind of came out of nowhere making statements that seemed to have no relationship to your subject.
And for the life of me I can't see what any of this has to do with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Surf_League <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Surf_League>.
Heres an article on WSL - Windows Subsystem for Linux but I understand your confusion.
https://fossbytes.com/richard-stallman-microsoft-linux-love-will-hurt-free-o... <https://fossbytes.com/richard-stallman-microsoft-linux-love-will-hurt-free-open-source-software/amp/>
This is not an amazingly new idea. Something like 25 years ago a group of us developed a way to run Unix binaries on top of DOS. It was not the end of Opensource software which was GCC and EMACS at the time. A chunk of the work we did ended up in the IBCS2 binary emulation in Linux. WSL is just a optimized VM engine. Think of it as an integrated VirtualBox or VMWare. I am really not a fan of Microsoft as just about anybody who knows me will attest to but I also don't see them as being run by a Mike Myers Dr. Evil kind of character. Most of the "Windows weenies" I know will run screaming from WSL and I expect that the primary uptake will be by Linux users who are forced by corporate doctrine to use Windows as a platform. It may be that in the long run WSL will actually erode the dominance of Windows and MS. That of course is my particular take and you are free to disagree.
I guess the entire thread is about protecting the right to engage free speach and the cost to individuals who go against the populist notions which are propigated by powerful organizations and their associate influencers.
At least thats my take on these current events as they relate to linux topicality.
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