On Tue, 28 Nov 2023 at 12:13, Evan Leibovitch via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
Both the choice of OS and where hosted is infrastructure, operational issues, and rarely part of a startup's pitch. If there is a privacy or security component to the proposal's added value the hosting may be a factor (ie, not hosted in a Five Eyes country) but I think even that is less of a factor with revelations that much claimed protection is an illusion.
( https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2023/08/08/protonmail-fbi-search... ) You're unhappy with ProtonMail? You thought they should protect all anonymity in defiance of the law? I think these quotes (from the article you cited) are worth reading: "Proton did say, however, that by Swiss law, for U.S. agencies to get information on Proton accounts, they have to go through Swiss authorities." "The FBI didn’t get much back from Proton, but it did receive the recovery and associated email addresses linked to the ProtonMail user. They proved crucial, enabling the FBI to find more information about the person online and conduct a sweep across the suspect's internet accounts, including on Amazon, Apple, Coinbase, Google, PayPal and Spotify." I'm fond of the law. I like to see it enforced. Protonmail lives in Switzerland, under Swiss law ... I'm okay with them complying with those laws. Sure Protonmail isn't perfect - but it's a hell of a lot better than Gmail. (Yes, I do use Protonmail. I pay them - they don't pay me to say this.) -- Giles https://www.gilesorr.com/ gilesorr@gmail.com