| From: William Park via talk <talk@gtalug.org> | I'd interested to know why you went with HP? I don't have a lot of brand loyalty with notebooks. Except, perhaps, ThinkPad. All notebooks are built by a few ODMs (Original Device Manufacturer). Often they do most of the engineering too. So the brand isn't really the main determinant of quality. Here's a stale ODM list. It doesn't say which ODMs built which marques. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_laptop_brands_and_manufacturers#ODM_laptop_units_sold_and_market_shares> I do know that Foxconn makes a lot of Apple stuff. And a lot of other stuff. Lenovo and Asus made a lot of their own stuff. I think HP uses different ODMs for different models but I don't know this. In my experience, HP has sold some interesting really low-end netbooks (HP Stream) and some nice "business class" notebooks. They've also taken "Envy" from a premium brand to a not-that-good brand. I have a "business class" HP tablet that they damaged with a firmware update (there is now a noticable delay between a touch and the response). They have never fixed. Even though some customers complained and some returned them under warranty.