I read some of the threads from the first email where the devs are discussing the energy legislation that motivated this decision. The main word of the law is posted here: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-settings-daemon/-/commit/2fdb48fa3333638cee889b8bb80dc1d2b65aaa4a (The discussion seemed to suggest that desktops might not have the same requirements as laptops but idk the context for that; + there are multiple jurisdictions to comply with.)

That said, looks that they're exceeding the requirements by a long shot. The wording uses language like "default period of time...shall not exceed 20 minutes" and "offer a power management function". Nothing to prohibit change of setting by user. Hopefully they will get around to adding it in someplace. It's bad to have it hidden in a text file. Speaking for myself, I anticipate that I would probably end up totally disabling the power management if it was annoying to adjust. The first time I encountered a situation where it was in my way, I would find out how to turn it off, then immediately forget I could turn it back on. If it's in a panel/widget somewhere you can temporarily extend the allowance when needed.

Does wake on lan work in this case? I have almost used it a couple times but never quite needed it. If so, maybe the solution is to  have a second device like your phone  or router send a packet every 14 (or 16?) minutes. If you have 2 laptops/desktops with the same problem you could stagger to WOL back and forth every 7 minutes. Problem solved.

On Sat, Sep 2, 2023, at 11:40 AM, David Collier-Brown via talk wrote:
On 9/2/23 04:50, BCLUG via talk wrote:

> D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote on 2023-09-01 05:54:
>
>>   Is there really no way to tweak this in the GUI?
>>
>> There is a way.  A user can change what GNOME does when they are 
>> logged in
>>
>>    settings: Power: (Power Saving Options) Automatic Suspend: off
>
>> But this has no effect on GDM (the login screen)
>> or any other user.
>
>> I want a system-wide setting.
>
There may be a don't start screensaver" setting, for people doing 
presentations. I remember hunting one down many moons ago, for a talk. 
It let me close the lid and still run a projector.

--dave

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