On 11/07/16 10:19 AM, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote:
Nextcloud forked OwnCloud last month and made its first release this month.
<http://www.zdnet.com/article/nextcloud-adds-enterprise-support-and-ios-appliance/> Includes links to "Related Stories".
Does anyone have any insight into which would be worth adopting? Or something else?
This is the big blog post announcement: http://karlitschek.de/2016/06/nextcloud/
- it looks as if more devs went with Nextcloud
Yes, it seems like all the key people, including some of the founders of the project, are going with NextCloud. That seems very likely to be the future. However, they'll need a bit of time. As an ownCloud user, I expect to move to NextCloud some time, but not today or tomorrow -- maybe later in 2016 or in 2017, as they get things in order.
- both are trying to make a commercial go of it. I fear that this doesn't match my desire for open source from an open project.
"Commercial" is too broad -- from what I gather, the NextCloud fork exists specifically to do a better job at governance of the project from a software freedom perspective, to avoid too much control in the business side. For example, from that blog post ( http://karlitschek.de/2016/06/nextcloud/ ): - We will no longer require a contributor license agreement from contributors. - We no longer do dual-licensing - The new trademark will be hold by an independent foundation. - We no longer do internal development planing behind closed doors. Everything will happen in the open. These are the kinds of things they've forked over, getting that relationship *right* between a free software project and a corporate sponsor. There are commercial approaches, like Automattic's with WordPress, where you have a separate foundation and a pretty healthy relationship with a primary corporate sponsor. Apparently, large chunks of the ownCloud community found there wasn't that proper governance and relationship through ownCloud Inc. -- at least, that's how I've understood it.
- I cringe at PHP. Especially since I'd like to expose my installation to the internet.
PHP isn't inherently a problem, especially for sure a vibrant and strong project like this. I'd be worried about some module written by a single developer or something, but NextCloud/ownCloud being PHP itself is less important that the health and strength and approach to security of the project and its developers. *shrugs*