Hi Bob, Thank you for all the pointers. I may keep bothering you if I still have issues eh ? Something you said " I have done this once upon a time..." made me type this: aruna@debian:~/linux-4.1.2$ find . -name "*.c" | xargs grep -i " bob copeland " and guess what find says: ./block/partitions/karma.c: * Copyright (C) 2006 Bob Copeland ( me@bobcopeland.com) ./fs/omfs/file.c: * Copyright (C) 2005 Bob Copeland < me@bobcopeland.com> ./fs/omfs/dir.c: * Copyright (C) 2005 Bob Copeland < me@bobcopeland.com> ./fs/omfs/inode.c: * Copyright (C) 2006 Bob Copeland < me@bobcopeland.com> ./drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath5k/led.c: * Copyright (c) 2009 Bob Copeland < me@bobcopeland.com> ./drivers/net/wireless/ti/wl1251/sdio.c: * Copyright (C) 2009 Bob Copeland ( me@bobcopeland.com) ./drivers/usb/storage/karma.c: * (c) 2006 Bob Copeland < me@bobcopeland.com> Holy Wow ! file system, wireless, usb ? holy wow again.. ( proceeds to fall off my chair ..) Yeah 2005 was a long time ago I was still using Windows 3.1 and had no idea what Linux was :) Privileged to meet you Mr.Copeland ( So what is it with folks who's names begin with Bob ? All the Bob's I know are possibly related to Einstein ? Including our own Mr.Jonkman ) Seriously many thanks for taking the time to reply it IS much appreciated ! Aruna