Greetings, all. I have been a contributor to an Open Source project over a number of years. A lot of the devs seems to use Debian testing which means I often find I have to deal with (often minor, fortunately) dependency hell to be able to recompile the program when I haven't done so in a while. I was trying out a Debian based version of Armbian and was impressed by how easy it was to get it up and running. I've been thinking of switching to Debian from Linux Mint. I decided to have another look at the Debian 12 install I have on one of the root partitions I have for other OSs. I was *not* impressed. It took about 7 minutes to from boot to login page. It takes so long that the system that provides the splash screen during boot gave up and it changed to a black screen during the last part of the boot process. After I enter my name and password it took about another 7 minutes to get to the desktop. Under Linux mint boot to desktop takes about 3 minutes. Any clues as to why Debian takes 4 to 5 times as long? I'm hoping there is some bad configuration out of the box causing Debian 12 to be acting so slow. Anyone have any ideas where I should start looking? If I can't get to the bottom of the problem I will be staying with Linux Mint. Perhaps LMDE might be worth a try instead of pure Debian. -- Cheers! Kevin. https://www.patreon.com/KevinCozens | "Nerds make the shiny things that | distract the mouth-breathers, and Owner of Elecraft K2 #2172 | that's why we're powerful" #include <disclaimer/favourite> | --Chris Hardwick