Hi all, The discussion so far has been very helpful. Many thanks to all who have participated. I look forward to seeing you at tomorrow's meeting. BTW, anyone thinking that I am "pushing" for Google is mistaken. I very much want to keep us using FOSS tools and using what we preach. It is an embarrassment to the technology we are advancing if we cannot use it to serve ourselves. However it is an even greater embarrassment if what we are using -- more likely, the way we are using it -- can't run basic things such as a few fairly simple mailing lists and a website that isn't borked like what showed up on my browser today (see attached). To me Google is just a highly-available last resort. The conversation so far has identified some people offering to step forward to help right the current ship and render it fit for use. That is very welcomed. Once properly configured, things *should* be easy to maintain but getting to that point of the challenge, Our needs are modest; if anything I wonder if some of our problems stem from over-engineering our solutions. Whether I personally am comfortable or not with Git (or any other specific tool) is or not is besides the point. What matters is whether (a) the tools we use are suited to the task at hand, and whether (b) we have enough people who have both the familiarity and the available spare time to produce the end results that we need. Having people saying "we could do XYZ", with the assumption that someone *else* among us has the skill and cycles to do it, is not helpful to us at this point. I am very hopeful, based on what I have read so far, that we will be able to come up with a way forward that will accomplish what we need. Evan Leibovitch, Toronto Canada @evanleibovitch / @el56
