On Sun, Jan 14, 2024 at 3:06 AM ac via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
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> > And, it's just a generic LLM.  I've heard experienced developers
> > saying surprisingly positive things about GitHub's Copilot for quite
> > a while now.
> > As for the SQL issue - all search queries on Qwant / DDG / Google
> > lead to "how to join tables in SQL"; utterly useless. I know that
> > reasonably well.
> > And, who hasn't had a search lead them to StackOverflow where the
> > highest rated answer is strongly condemned further in the comments as
> > being wrong / out of date / insecure, etc.?
> >
> Actually, this is an interesting point.
>
> Google search seems to prioritise answers from humans and human sources.
>
> I searched on Microsoft the other day and was surprised to see that I
> could supply .js snippets (which I did not code and was too lazy to
> read through) and receive a correct answer direct from "search"
>
> So, us humans will be replaced as 'coders" - Machines will be writing
> the code which powers machines. Not only is that something for us to
> understand fully, but we also have to comprehend where we are all
> choosing to go.
>
> It is like watching episodes of "the Traitors" and seeing how the
> majority votes out a faithful.
>
> there is just nothing to do but be along for the ride :)
>
> > Lots of incorrect answers supplied by humans.
> >
> indeed, if only there was some way to 'sort' or use advanced search to
> set dates... (to exclude popular answers from 2009) or do more settings
> on search options... oh, wait.... - and then there are no search
> results... when is "search" not "search" and just becomes "answer" -
> interesting! - it is like a mobile phone - it is hardly even a mobile
> phone any longer, why do so many people still call it a 'phone' or a
> mobile phone...
>
> I think though that I will still be using Google for search, although
> when looking at it all from my perspective we are all already screwed,
> unless we can vote out all of the tratitors. (which seems increasingly
> unlikely)
>
Re: search engines - - - - to me they are totally frustrating.

If I'm asking for a search where I want terms  'a + b + c + d + e' well -
I'm looking for where ALL 5 terms show up. Not where any one term is or
any two (etc etc). So if one is looking for very generic kind of items - -
well search is useful - - - if you're looking for the specific - - - - search
- - - well - - its quite useless!

(tried to sign up for chatgpt but as I'm unable to use a cellphone at my location that's a no for even signup (and no way to reach the idiots - - - - sorry I guess I should use people but I wonder - - to let them know that I can't because its only after registration that connection is allowed - - - total circular logic that is!)