| From: William Park via talk <talk@gtalug.org> | When I click "Get Ubuntu Pro now" button, I see $500/year at the bottom, which | is a bit too much for Linux. At least, Apple owns the hardware and software. | But, with Linux, you have to get the hardware yourself, and install the | software yourself. If you click Dhaval's link, it is all laid out clearly. <https://ubuntu.com/pricing/pro> Unless you have requirements beyond my idea of normal, you qualify for the free tier of Ubuntu Pro (infra-only) Desktop. I assume that a Desktop can act as a server -- that's always been true. It doesn't really say that you are not allowed to have dozen's of machines. But Stewart says that there is a limit of five. Stewart is usually right so this document is suspect. Ohh. Maybe the dashes mean "not available". I thought that they meant "no charge". Not so clear after all. | On 2023-01-31 09:22, Stewart Russell via talk wrote: | > I should really stop running Ubuntu for the good of my health. This morning, | > my various Ubuntu systems announced that a whole bunch of packages would be | > unavailable unless I registered for Ubuntu Pro — https://ubuntu.com/pro | > <https://ubuntu.com/pro> | > | > Ubuntu Pro is free-of-charge for "personal" users for up to five machines. | > Otherwise, pay up. I didn't see rates listed: you have to contact Canonical | > to find out. Whenever I see that, I expect an Oracle-style shakedown in the | > absence of transparency. Looking at Stewart's link <https://ubuntu.com/pro> ... If I remember correctly, free Ubuntu LTS was supposed to have 10 years of support. It now seems to be down to 5. So they've taken something away that they promised (RH did too when it chopped off CentOS.) "Reduce your average CVE exposure time from 98 days to 1 day with expanded CVE patching, ten-years security maintenance, optional support and operations for the full stack of open-source applications." Really? Ubuntu security updates have been that bad? I don't really know what the Ubuntu Universe is. It seems to be very big -- ten times the number of packages in Ubuntu Main. The logo ranks suggest some pretty important things are only in Universe: Python, Go, Perl, Docker, Ansible, Rust. Maybe base customers get Universe but with no promised maintenance. That sounds like a legal liability if they know about a security problem, and have fixed it, but not for LTS customers.