On 10 February 2018 at 20:44, Bob Jonkman via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
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Hugh wrote:
> I would think that most 32-bit only laptops are not really useful
> any longer.

I have a Toshiba Satellite P200 laptop, 3 GHz dual-core CPU, 2 GBytes
RAM, 200 GByte HD, 4 USB ports, and, most wonderful of all, a 1440x900
px 17" screen.

I was disappointed to learn about a week ago when installing Debian
Testing that it only has a 32-bit CPU. I have another P200 that no
longer boots, and I was sure it had a 64-bit CPU.  That one also had
Bluetooth and 6 USB ports, so it was likely a higher sub-model of the
P200.

Such a machine is perfectly adequate for web surfing, e-mail reading,
maintaining other people's websites, and ssh-ing into whatever remote
machine I'm SysAdminning. But now that some packages are no longer
available in 32-bit architecture (hello, Chrome!) it may be necessary
to buy a new laptop.

Are there any down sides to using a 32-bit machine as a web- or mail
server? I'm thinking low power consumption, &c. make that an
attractive alternate use.


Howard wrote:
>> Has anyone else out there played with this? (Netinstall)

Yes, very successfully. I generally prefer doing the netinstall. Using
an .iso to install takes time to copy all the OS files and packages to
the computer, and, unless the .iso is a very recent release, almost
everything you just installed has to be replaced with the first
upgrade you make.  So, might as well do the netinstall and get all the
current stuff the first time.


- --Bob.


On 2018-02-10 10:49 AM, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote:
> | From: Howard Gibson via talk <talk@gtalug.org>
>
> |    I have just upgraded my 32-bit laptop to Fedora 27.  The
> install DVD |    is no longer available for 32-bit.  I had to do a
> Netinstall.
>
> Interesting.  What laptop is it?  I would think that most 32-bit
> only laptops are not really useful any longer.

> On 2018-02-09 10:27 PM, Howard Gibson via talk wrote:
>> I have just upgraded my 32-bit laptop to Fedora 27.  The install
>> DVD is no longer available for 32-bit.  I had to do a Netinstall.
>> Netinstall is poorly documented, but the default settings all
>> work, I was able to select the software I wanted, and it has all
>> worked very well.  I think I actually prefer Netinstall to the
>> DVD.
>>
>> Has anyone else out there played with this?
>>
>> I have not yet updated my website notes.
 
I'm reading all of this with some interest: I tried a Fedora Net Install about four months back.  And I appear to be the only person on this list who had a problem with it.  Specifically, I got to the page where you have to fill in details about your system and users (I think, I'm doing this from memory) and couldn't proceed further despite having filled in the details because the installer was having a hard time either getting the list of mirrors or finding a responsive mirror (I think it was the former).  The result was a ten minute delay, despite my having a fully functional network connection.  A bit of research at the time seemed to indicate that this was an uncommon but not unheard-of problem with the Net Installer.  It left me strongly inclined to make the big ISO download ...

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