I had to google what JBP stand for. I still have the same sense of decorum now as back in Usenet days when everybody just gave out their email address in a public forum -- don't email people you found on Usenet unless they invited you or you are friends. Preferably in real life. That is insane. On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 12:40 PM Karen Lewellen via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
Can someone explain the rules about private contacts without permission? It seems those on moderation are simply trying to force their case privately.
On Thu, 14 Mar 2019, ted leslie wrote:
I got booted (life time) as you may know. I found your posts in the archive. First, I am NOT trying to get back into the TLUG, i have been in for 19 years or so and for reasons not related to today, it is not an issue to be out of it.
I first would like to state that i used the word "snowflake gen", and to, I believe everyone, "gen" is a abbrv for generation, i.e. gen-x intel next gen chip, etc, gen is NOT abbrev for gender, and Alex took it that way. To the degree SFG is really a derogative term? it wasn't 2 years ago. I grew up in the 80's, the decade of the hair-band when we were all supposed to be screwed .. i was paraphrasing but the worst I can be accused of is generation degrading! I have blond hair, I have to hear "blond jokes" :)
What Alex doesn't understand is that , as JBP preaches, its equality of opportunity for the genders, not equality of outcome, equality of outcome is insane. 50/50 army soldiers, 50/50 nurses, 50/50 ditch-diggers, ?????
I don't even have a problem IN TIME if education see 100% female participants, if nature, evolution or creation thinking see it that way over a reasonable period of time, but in 15 years? I like Ted Turner, don't believe men should be heads of state, its mean, but it will save a load of lives! The society quake of such a quick shift, and relating to topic of employment, and disruption in trades and in general the world, is enormous. The thinking which is not mentioned as often, is the guy who drove the van and killed people, who wrote he was avoided (or some such thing) by women, and he went/was nihilistic .. disruptive society bring that, if in 15-30 years there is 80/20 split of F/M, that would spell out the nihilist male (many) from daily repeating that terror, day in and day out, its a major imbalance of society. As JBP says, "that's not good"!
JBP has a lot to say about it, and I can't do it justice but I am making it a point to try (in life) He was villified by _some_ womans groups early on in 2017, now he gets invited to speak to them in his same positive manner, because woman do not want equality of outcome, they want equality of opportunity, and there is a night and day difference. And no one wants a disrupted society that is going against the grain, to cause a bunch of nihilistic males, who can't adapt to that change sanely.
I am glad this topic of discussion carried on a bit in this way for reasons that may become apparent at some later time. If anyone gets a chance to talk to Alex, please tell him: 1) gen= generation. (obviously) 2) his slander of me, do to that, did go to the archives, so if my name is googled this comes up, i told him to remove it or allow two sided of the story. Why do I want to sue tlug/alex? i don't but he has to choose one or the other. He removes, fine, he allows me to submit a brief my side of story, and JBP gets some more followers and the world will be a bit better for it :) I have a felling Alex is not for debates and exchange of info, so hopefully he just drops the whole thing
The topic went off topic, but I think my Harper comments were right on at least what was still being discussed. Outsourcing to India is a sore topic, a 80/20 split in 15 years, much sorer topic for employment for many, and many other things. It would appear my current JBP "mandate" had me all to happily segway onto that second section of my email, to my sincere apology, more for the off-topic, and less so for the gen!=gender issue , which you can pass on to Alex or board if you have chance. [but again have no interest to return to the board, I don't blame him for jumping, I do blame him for not wanting to at least discuss, even a bit] And there are some who emailed me after that did also argue the case to Alex, and I certainly didn't ask them to do that, so good on them.
And apologies if this is an interruption, or a read, that you don't get that 100 seconds back in your life. Now I have to get back to doing my JBP home work , and finish reading Gulag Archipelago :) (argh, but I am serious). But seriously, I am grateful the conversation did carry on, at least a little bit by y'all.
-tl
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