On Mon, Jun 02, 2025 at 03:54:07PM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote:
Did your house replace an old one or was it a "green field" development? My guess is that, based on a very rough idea of where you are, it was a green field development (it is expensive to throw away a built home so usually that is in the city where the houses are older and the land value has gone up a lot).
Green field.
It used to be the case that green-field developers would choose which of Rogers or Bell to contract to wire up their development. Not both. Thus Rogers and Bell would compete in how much they rewarded the developer. That may have changed -- I considered it corrupt and so should the CRTC or Competition Bureau.
Yeah I had actually assumed that was the case and only rogers was here, but apparently not. Rogers did seem to be first at having service actually available though.
The developers can be builders but they can also sell serviced lots to builders. I would guess that custom home builders are not developers (different scale of operation).
There are four developers sharing lots in this development. No idea how such arrangements work, but they seem pretty common these days.
Teksavvy is the only genuine third party ISP that I've seen reselling fibre. I have not done a search. They are quite expensive. Probably due to tariffs set by the CRTC (under the direction of the cabinet after the CRTC set a lower tariff). I suspect they pay more to Bell than you would.
Bell wants $130 per month for 1.5Gbit, and teksavvy wants $115 per month for the same thing. Bell offers other speeds both lower and higher, teksavvy has just the one.
I don't know why BCE is suffering hard times. They were forced to halve their dividend recently. They have spent a lot building out fibre and the interest rate on debt has gone up a lot.
Maybe if they were nicer to customers they would have more of them. No idea. Maybe they spent too much money buying TV stations and such.
But for cables into the house, in the GTA, I think that they are just a third party ISP. I don't know that, I infer it.
Oh almost certainly that is the case. -- Len Sorensen