Hello Had a really weird experience yesterday. I have been running mandrake 9.1 with the stock kernel 2.4.21-013mdk, for perhaps 3 months. I read an advisory which suggested that I upgraded the kernel to 2.4.21-026mdk, (all nicely packaged by the Drake folks), as a preventative measure against some root exploits. I use KDE 3.1 as the window manager, and since I've installed this kernel, KDE sometimes doesn't come up when I login as a user (it just hangs), or it comes up and crashes within 5 minutes. I have since been using IceWM as my backup window manager. Now, I've kept the old kernel, so I have a choice of kernels to boot from. When I try to run KDE using the old kernel, it crashes too. My question is, has anyone had a similar experience like this? I could stick with IceWM for now or use another window manager like XFCE, but I'm really curious about this. Any ideas, folks ? Clive -- Clive DaSilva CMA Home Tel: 416-421-2480 Cell: 416-560-8820 Email: cdasilva-q6EoVN9bke6w5LPnMra/2Q at public.gmane.org Mandrake Linux 9.1 Kernel 2.4.21 -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml