Tim Writer wrote:

JoeHill <joehill-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg at public.gmane.org> writes:

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On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 11:19:27 -0500 Clive DaSilva <cdasilva-q6EoVN9bke6w5LPnMra/2Q at public.gmane.org> wrote:

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Had a really weird experience yesterday. I have been running mandrake 9.1 with the stock kernel 2.4.21-013mdk, for perhaps 3 months. I read an advisory which suggested that I upgraded the kernel to 2.4.21-026mdk, (all nicely packaged by the Drake folks), as a preventative measure against some root exploits. I use KDE 3.1 as the window manager, and since I've installed this kernel, KDE sometimes doesn't come up when I login as a user (it just hangs), or it comes up and crashes within 5 minutes. I have since been using IceWM as my backup window manager. Now, I've kept the old kernel, so I have a choice of kernels to boot from. When I try to run KDE using the old kernel, it crashes too.

I haven't seen anything like this come up on any of the Mandrake lists, but I would suggest asking as well on Expert.

Do you see anything in /var/log/messages or /var/log/XFree86.0.log?

It could be that KDE was compiled against the old kernel and is pitching a fit now that newer modules are being loaded, though why when you boot into the *old* kernel would hence be a mystery.

Someone here had a similar problem using a new motherboard with a not yet well supported video adapter. Only the VESA driver worked but KDE kept crashing. Could the new Mandrake kernel have some graphics related drivers that could be triggering the problem? I'm thinking particulary about things like DRM. Use lsmod to compare the modules loaded with the old kernel against those loaded with the new kernel.

Thanks Tim, Will try out some of those suggestions Clive -- Clive DaSilva CMA Home Tel: 416-421-2480 Cell: 416-560-8820 Email: cdasilva-q6EoVN9bke6w5LPnMra/2Q at public.gmane.org Mandrake Linux 9.1 Kernel 2.4.21 -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml