On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 21:54, Ian Goldberg wrote:

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The whole story:

http://www.cypherpunks.ca/dell.html

This is now on /. A good opportunity to muster ppl if any linux.ca + response to Dell + is desired.

Cheers, Lloyd +

I agree to where I've been sseing this thread going, but I have a question... Where will this all lead to? We send a petition, they look at it and dismiss it because they have an agreement that stipulates they sell all desktop systems with M$ software pre-installed. Are we asking them to break that agreement? What is their incentive to do it voluntarily? A bunch of people screaming unfair business practices isn't nearly as potent as one individual in court screaming no fair. Dell is a business, so they make decisions based on the bottom line. M$ must have offered them something (or the appearance of something?) in the agreement they have together, and locked them in hard with a bunch of fancy legal mumbo-jumbo. The opensource community has to have something that they can see in their future bottom line or they won't budge. Why should they if it isn't plesing to shareholders? That's my thoughts on all this... Ian? Seems the ball's in your court. what's your thoughts on the goal for a final outcome of all this? -- Keith Mastin BeechTree Information Technology Services Inc. Toronto, Canada (416)696 6070 -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml