On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 05:11:38PM -0500, JoeHill wrote:

I nowhere engaged in such a practice, I argued against *any* limits being placed on the free exchange of information, for reasons I have already stated, and have provided references for. Not once did I claim or assume that the "other side" of the argument was no disclosure at all. As Robert suggested would happen, this *is* getting repetitive, and now you are accusing me of something you seem to be doing yourself.

So, to end the thread, placing limits on the free exchange of any information, whether it is for some limited time or perceived good, is the kind of slippery slope that leads to a regime **Hitler** would have loved ;-)

You have argued against *any* limit. Until the "slippery slope" statment above, I have not seen any *justification* for such an argument that actually applied to delayed disclosure (a temporary limit for a deliberate purpose) rather than *only* to non-disclosure. A slippery slope argument is not particularly compelling unless you go on to show that there is difficulty in choosing any point in between the extremes and sticking to that point. As long as people *do* always come to the point where they disclose the problem, there is no slippery slope. Different people may have different amounts of leniency, but the end result is the same except for the exact timing. If you have any argument that justifies immediate disclosure over delayed disclosure, please state it. What penalty is there for making it possible to have a fix for a problem available before the general publication of the problem, as long as the publication will happen in a relatively short time frame? What benefit comes from not providing a window of time for fixing the problem before disclosure? But skip "non-disclosure is bad" arguments - they do not say anything against delayed disclosure. And skip "nobody has proved it is necessary" arguments - they at most say that immediate disclosure might not cause damage, but they do not state any advantage for immediate disclosure. -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml