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by fraser-Txk5XLRqZ6CsTnJN9+BGXg＠public.gmane.org 27 Aug '03

27 Aug '03

On August 27, 2003 12:23 pm, Max Blanco wrote: > I was looking for the Ontario government law which deals with Deadstock > Disposal, and found to my dismay that the government of Ontario > provides laws in a format readable only to Microsoft users. Not sure if we're looking at the same thing, I can read this just fine: http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/DBLaws/Statutes/English/90d03_e.htm A .doc is also provided (see http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/download2_E.asp?lang=en&docFile=Statutes/Englis…) Although .doc might be a Microsoft format it generally isn't that difficult for non-Microsoft users to read. I've been able to read .doc's on Linux for a long time. As far as I remember there was a free version of Wordperfect that could read it just fine (at that time) probably over 6 years ago, it might have run under iBCS but it still ran. Currently you have loads of options to choose from, these are the ones that I have installed: - abiword - kword - openoffice.org - strings (ok not too practival) - wv (converts directly to pdf, dvi, html, and more) If the .doc is what you find objectionable what is your preference, pdf? If they went with pdf then they would almost certainly run out and pay the big bucks to Adobe for PDF generation software, we might prefer Adobe over MS but what's the win. When 90% of us (if you believe the statistics) have wordview and the rest of us have options as I mentioned above I don't see a problem ... especially since they are providing html (I assume that you didn't notice it). -- Fraser Campbell <fraser-Txk5XLRqZ6CsTnJN9+BGXg at public.gmane.org> http://www.wehave.net/ Halton Hills, Ontario, Canada Debian GNU/Linux -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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European Linuxers protest law on software patents
by plp-ysDPMY98cNQDDBjDh4tngg＠public.gmane.org 27 Aug '03

27 Aug '03

http://wiki.ael.be/index.php/BigDemo27aug -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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http:--www.e-laws.gov.on.ca:81- (fwd)
by emir-rdkfGonbjUTTQjIoRn/dzw＠public.gmane.org 27 Aug '03

27 Aug '03

On 27/08/2003 12:59, Henry Spencer wrote: > I wrote: > >>do a fair job of reading Microsoft flies. > > > Oops, for "flies" read "files"... :-) Freudian slip, if there ever was one ;) -- Emir. "The rancorous Supreme Court pronouncement on the 2000 Presidential election ought to remind everyone that the US' legal system is at best a lottery, and at worst, deeply swayed by human vices." -- Andrew Orlowski -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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http:--www.e-laws.gov.on.ca:81- (fwd)
by henry-lqW1N6Cllo0sV2N9l4h3zg＠public.gmane.org 27 Aug '03

27 Aug '03

I wrote: > do a fair job of reading Microsoft flies. Oops, for "flies" read "files"... :-) Henry Spencer henry-lqW1N6Cllo0sV2N9l4h3zg at public.gmane.org -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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http:--www.e-laws.gov.on.ca:81- (fwd)
by henry-lqW1N6Cllo0sV2N9l4h3zg＠public.gmane.org 27 Aug '03

27 Aug '03

On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, Max Blanco wrote: > I was looking for the Ontario government law which deals with Deadstock > Disposal, and found to my dismay that the government of Ontario > provides laws in a format readable only to Microsoft users. The case for complaint is weakened somewhat -- although only somewhat -- by the fact that non-Microsoft software like Open Office can generally do a fair job of reading Microsoft flies. Henry Spencer henry-lqW1N6Cllo0sV2N9l4h3zg at public.gmane.org -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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http:--www.e-laws.gov.on.ca:81- (fwd)
by emir-rdkfGonbjUTTQjIoRn/dzw＠public.gmane.org 27 Aug '03

27 Aug '03

On 27/08/2003 12:23, Max Blanco wrote: > I was looking for the Ontario government law which deals with Deadstock > Disposal, and found to my dismay that the government of Ontario > provides laws in a format readable only to Microsoft users. > > Should I not complain? Perhaps we should start a petition (http://www.petitiononline.com/) and try to get other Ontario LUGs involved. Our taxes paid for those laws, their enforcement, software used to publish them, and the site they're hosted on. I reckon we have a say in the matter. -- Emir. "The rancorous Supreme Court pronouncement on the 2000 Presidential election ought to remind everyone that the US' legal system is at best a lottery, and at worst, deeply swayed by human vices." -- Andrew Orlowski -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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["Steve LeBoutillier" <slebouti@ca.ibm.com>] e-Mail & Rapid Application development platform for Linux
by fraser-Txk5XLRqZ6CsTnJN9+BGXg＠public.gmane.org 27 Aug '03

27 Aug '03

On August 27, 2003 12:07 pm, Matthew Rice wrote: > Anyone think that we should take Steve up on his offer for a talk on Lotus > Domino? For NewTLUG, TLUG or HLUG? I wouldn't mind seeing what it can do since I've never used notes. Besides a quick overview of features what would the demo consist of ... a real program example, lines of code, discussion of development time, cost of all components used in the application??? -- Fraser Campbell <fraser-Txk5XLRqZ6CsTnJN9+BGXg at public.gmane.org> http://www.wehave.net/ Halton Hills, Ontario, Canada Debian GNU/Linux -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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["Steve LeBoutillier" <slebouti@ca.ibm.com>] e-Mail & Rapid Application development platform for Linux
by emir-rdkfGonbjUTTQjIoRn/dzw＠public.gmane.org 27 Aug '03

27 Aug '03

On 27/08/2003 12:07, Matthew Rice wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Anyone think that we should take Steve up on his offer for a talk on Lotus > Domino? For NewTLUG, TLUG or HLUG? > > And don't flame him if you aren't interested ;) I personally think we should take him up on this offer, Lotus (especially on Linux) is a topic not great many people know a lot about and yet, IIRC, Lotus has more users worldwide than MS Exchange (in terms of actual mailboxes). TLUG seems a better forum for such a talk than NewTLUG. -- Emir. "The rancorous Supreme Court pronouncement on the 2000 Presidential election ought to remind everyone that the US' legal system is at best a lottery, and at worst, deeply swayed by human vices." -- Andrew Orlowski -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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http:--www.e-laws.gov.on.ca:81- (fwd)
by blanco-S8qYAnHmZTt34ZA5RureAJ4VBq8PJc8F＠public.gmane.org 27 Aug '03

27 Aug '03

I was looking for the Ontario government law which deals with Deadstock Disposal, and found to my dismay that the government of Ontario provides laws in a format readable only to Microsoft users. Should I not complain? <http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca> <http://www.newswire.ca/releases/March2003/21/c2878.html> <http://www.cbs.gov.on.ca/mcbs/english/4SUPSW.htm> (see August 27 ed of Toronto Star:) 'Deadstock' focus of meat probe Health ministry memo sheds light on investigation Illegal to process animals that die before slaughter RICHARD BRENNAN AND ROBERT CRIBB STAFF REPORTERS -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Help! Disk space error
by kareem-d+8TeBu5bOew5LPnMra/2Q＠public.gmane.org 27 Aug '03

27 Aug '03

On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 11:31, Sidney Shapiro wrote: > Youre right, I cant see how the numbers add up. All I deleted was two > unneeded files in / and a bunch of old log files... > > This is what I get now: > > [root at root]# du -sh * > 1.1M Desktop > 31k Mail > 27k PLSK.00015231.0000.sh > 4.0k anaconda-ks.cfg > 727k easypsa > 5.3M image > 2.0k index.html > 22k install.log > 0 install.log.syslog > 3.0k mail > 1.0k nsmail > > > [root at root]# df -h > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > /dev/hda6 372M 95M 258M 27% / > /dev/hda1 45M 8.7M 34M 21% /boot > /dev/md0 147G 9.3G 130G 7% /home > none 283M 0 282M 0% /dev/shm > /dev/hda3 8.6G 1.7G 6.5G 21% /usr > /dev/hda7 26G 1.7G 23G 7% /var Well, it looks like one of those "unneeded files" may have been the culprit. When you get a chance, run e2fsck... something tells me not all is right with your FS, and it doesn't hurt to check. Kareem -- /********************************************************************* kareem-d+8TeBu5bOew5LPnMra/2Q at public.gmane.org - Kareem Shehata - 416-676-6611 -------------------------------------------------------------------- Reminds me of my safari in Africa. Somebody forgot the corkscrew and for several days we had to live on nothing but food and water. -- W. C. Fields ********************************************************************/ -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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