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Windows refund experience?
by matt-s/rLXaiAEBtBDgjK7y7TUQ＠public.gmane.org 27 Aug '03

27 Aug '03

Ian Goldberg <linux-cOjNTMaGA5U at public.gmane.org> writes: > I certainly don't intend to turn the machine on without it booting > straight into Linux. Any other hints? There was a great article on a guy's experience _successfully_ getting a full refund from a hardware vendor ($199US) for XP. He had to take them to small claims court, though. How far do you want to take it? Hear's the story on it: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=7040 Happy reading. -- matthew rice <matt-s/rLXaiAEBtBDgjK7y7TUQ at public.gmane.org> starnix inc. phone: 905-771-0017 x242 thornhill, ontario, canada http://www.starnix.com professional linux services & products -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Windows refund experience?
by lsorense-1wCw9BSqJbv44Nm34jS7GywD8/FfD2ys＠public.gmane.org 27 Aug '03

27 Aug '03

On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 05:30:23PM -0400, Ian Goldberg wrote: > The new Dell laptop just arrived by Purolator. I've got the Debian > install CD at the ready, but before I do anything, does anyone have > (local, or at least Canadian) experience with trying to get a Windows > refund from a manufacturer? I suspect Dell is going to be VERY hard to get anything out of, given they probably have their own agreement with MS, and don't even use the standard install disk. Most likely they don't even give you media. > I notice I can't even see the EULA anywhere in the box; I suspect it's > likely to be in the shrinkwrapped Windows XP Home pamphlet. [Though > there's no notice (at least on the outside) of the form "removing > shrinkwrap implies agreement".] > > I certainly don't intend to turn the machine on without it booting > straight into Linux. Any other hints? Simplest is to just let it blow up windows and forget it ever existed, when you boot Linux. Just my guess on things. Len -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Windows refund experience?
by linux-cOjNTMaGA5U＠public.gmane.org 27 Aug '03

27 Aug '03

The new Dell laptop just arrived by Purolator. I've got the Debian install CD at the ready, but before I do anything, does anyone have (local, or at least Canadian) experience with trying to get a Windows refund from a manufacturer? I notice I can't even see the EULA anywhere in the box; I suspect it's likely to be in the shrinkwrapped Windows XP Home pamphlet. [Though there's no notice (at least on the outside) of the form "removing shrinkwrap implies agreement".] I certainly don't intend to turn the machine on without it booting straight into Linux. Any other hints? Thanks, - Ian -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Help! Disk space error
by kmastin-PzQIwG9Jn9VAFePFGvp55w＠public.gmane.org 27 Aug '03

27 Aug '03

> On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 02:42:38PM -0400, Kareem Shehata wrote: >> Shoot... I was hoping to use that to squeeze the XP partition on my >> laptop to fit in Gentoo. Any ideas as to what I can use instead? I >> really don't want to have to go through re-installing XP, not to >> mention everything else I have. > > Unfortunately the best I have used is partitoin magic, which well is > commercial, costs some $60 or 70, but really does work well and is worth > having around for just such stupid emergencies (or bad planning on the > part of the original installer). I don't think anything else will > resize NTFS at this time. Yup.. its called BootitNG, and you can get it here http://www.bootitng.com It does a lot of things, but one of them is resize NTFS (and other) partitions. -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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http:--www.e-laws.gov.on.ca:81- (fwd)
by robert-5LEc/6Zm6xCUd8a0hrldnti2O/JbrIOy＠public.gmane.org 27 Aug '03

27 Aug '03

On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, Fraser Campbell wrote: > - strings (ok not too practival) > - wv (converts directly to pdf, dvi, html, and more) For another good command line tool to read MS-Word docs, try antiword. Avaiable in Debian Woody and probably lots of other distros. Rob -- Robert Brockway B.Sc. email: robert-5LEc/6Zm6xCUd8a0hrldnti2O/JbrIOy at public.gmane.org, zzbrock at uqconnect.net Linux counter project ID #16440 (http://counter.li.org) "The earth is but one country and mankind its citizens" -Baha'u'llah -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Help! Disk space error
by lsorense-1wCw9BSqJbv44Nm34jS7GywD8/FfD2ys＠public.gmane.org 27 Aug '03

27 Aug '03

On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 02:23:50PM -0400, Lloyd D Budd wrote: > Doesn't 'parted' have (experimental) support for partition resize. Yes, with many limitations, and not the simplest user interface I have worked with. Not sure about NTFS or anything else. Lennart Sorensen -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Help! Disk space error
by fraser-Txk5XLRqZ6CsTnJN9+BGXg＠public.gmane.org 27 Aug '03

27 Aug '03

On August 27, 2003 02:41 pm, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > Unfortunately the best I have used is partitoin magic, which well is > commercial, costs some $60 or 70, but really does work well and is worth > having around for just such stupid emergencies (or bad planning on the > part of the original installer). I don't think anything else will > resize NTFS at this time. There's a Linux program called ntfsresize, supposedly works although I've never had a reason to try it. -- Fraser Campbell <fraser-Txk5XLRqZ6CsTnJN9+BGXg at public.gmane.org> http://www.wehave.net/ Halton Hills, Ontario, Canada Debian GNU/Linux -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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http:--www.e-laws.gov.on.ca:81- (fwd)
by blanco-S8qYAnHmZTt34ZA5RureAJ4VBq8PJc8F＠public.gmane.org 27 Aug '03

27 Aug '03

On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, Fraser Campbell wrote: > On August 27, 2003 12:23 pm, Max Blanco wrote: > > http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/DBLaws/Statutes/English/90d03_e.htm > I didn't notice... > A .doc is also provided (see > http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/download2_E.asp?lang=en&docFile=Statutes/Englis…) > [snip] > Currently you have loads of options to choose from, these are the > ones that I have installed: > I prefer antiword myself, but it doesn't do tables. But that's not my point. > If the .doc is what you find objectionable what is your preference, pdf? [snip] > ... especially since they are providing html (I assume that you didn't notice > it). > You corrected me, and thanks for that. I find both .doc and .pdf objectionable, for the reason that they mask behind machine language what ought to be plain text. I suppose ascii-->english translators to be universal. I don't suppose doc-->english to be universal, nor pdf-->english. html-->english is my next choice, which I hadn't seen. -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Help! Disk space error
by kareem-d+8TeBu5bOew5LPnMra/2Q＠public.gmane.org 27 Aug '03

27 Aug '03

On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 14:29, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > Fips is for FAT partitions only. > > Lennart Sorensen Shoot... I was hoping to use that to squeeze the XP partition on my laptop to fit in Gentoo. Any ideas as to what I can use instead? I really don't want to have to go through re-installing XP, not to mention everything else I have. Kareem -- /********************************************************************* kareem-d+8TeBu5bOew5LPnMra/2Q at public.gmane.org - Kareem Shehata - 416-676-6611 -------------------------------------------------------------------- Reminds me of my safari in Africa. Somebody forgot the corkscrew and for several days we had to live on nothing but food and water. -- W. C. Fields ********************************************************************/ -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Help! Disk space error
by lsorense-1wCw9BSqJbv44Nm34jS7GywD8/FfD2ys＠public.gmane.org 27 Aug '03

27 Aug '03

On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 02:42:38PM -0400, Kareem Shehata wrote: > Shoot... I was hoping to use that to squeeze the XP partition on my > laptop to fit in Gentoo. Any ideas as to what I can use instead? I > really don't want to have to go through re-installing XP, not to mention > everything else I have. Unfortunately the best I have used is partitoin magic, which well is commercial, costs some $60 or 70, but really does work well and is worth having around for just such stupid emergencies (or bad planning on the part of the original installer). I don't think anything else will resize NTFS at this time. Lennart Sorensen -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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