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If someone sells laptops w/o Windows installed
by plp-ysDPMY98cNQDDBjDh4tngg＠public.gmane.org 31 Aug '03

31 Aug '03

Ok, here are two brands: IPC - older 'disappearing' brand ? 2GHz 256MB 20GB CD-RW+DVD 15" TFT, touchpad, looks very much like a Dell clone ? but isn't one. There are no Dell parts in it. The price is no longer of actuality. Daewoo - 950MHz 256MB 20GB 14.4" TFT (?) no cd (can upgrade) but only 1.6kg (almost a notebook), comes with Lindows and OpenOffice installed, and xtra lithium battery, 3xUSB, ether and modem builtin, all supported by Lindows, for about US$1000 cash or 6 months on credit (remember we have serious taxes here - like 18% vat on everything and more funnies - in your parts the price on discount will likely be 60-70% of what we see here). Interesting, this is the first laptop loaded with Linux that comes from a local shop chain I see here. Good timing for this thread ;-) Peter -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Help With Home Server
by robert-5LEc/6Zm6xCUd8a0hrldnti2O/JbrIOy＠public.gmane.org 31 Aug '03

31 Aug '03

On Sun, 31 Aug 2003, Jay wrote: > okay, for my DNS registration I have the following options > > Primary DNS Host: > Primary DNS IP: > Secondary DNS Host: > Secondary DNS IP: > > It tells me I need at least 2. Should I fill them both out with the same > information both pointing to my machine/IP. Thats what I did? Hi Jay. You need to arrange for 2 (or more) machines with static addresses to act as authorative servers for you. If you home Linux box has a static address, then you can use it at one (as ling as it is ok within the AUP). Your ISP may well be able to run the other one. Alternatively you could look at EveryDNS (http://www.everydns.net) You can run your primary & secondary nameservers there for free. For my domains I have the primary namserver on my own box and use EveryDNS as secondaries. Once you have the 2 machines (wherever they happen to be) correctly configured, you can "delegate" to these machines and your domain goes live. > I also asked istop to change from jay.tor.istop.com to hostname.domain.ca They could change the reverse lookup to point to hostname.domain.ca but it isn't strickly necessary for the functioning of your domain. Just as long as you have some sort of reverse going. > Nowhere does it ask for ZOA or anything like that? I assume that is when I SOA (Start of Authority) is an important part of the zonefile and includes things like the origin (primary nameserver) and the serial (a number that tells authorative servers if their copy of the zonefile is current). There are a lot of ways to subtly get dns configuration wrong (something like 30% of fortune 1000 companies have their dns somewhat misconfigured). I'd suggest reading up a bit more on how dns works to make sure you get it going properly, and I'd suggest giving serious consideration to EveryDNS. Rob -- Robert Brockway B.Sc. email: robert-5LEc/6Zm6xCUd8a0hrldnti2O/JbrIOy at public.gmane.org, zzbrock at uqconnect.net Linux counter project ID #16440 (http://counter.li.org) "The earth is but one country and mankind its citizens" -Baha'u'llah -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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ISP Suggestions...(was Re: Re:Help With Home Server)
by brian-hkt3R1SlsOrYtjvyW6yDsg＠public.gmane.org 31 Aug '03

31 Aug '03

Hi All, I am looking to stop giving Ted Roger$ all my money and was looking around for a decent service. I saw Jay mention istop.com and was curious if anyone else has any other suggestions. I'm up in Newmarket so I should have access to pretty much anything. Keys here are Price, reliability, and they don't care if you're running servers.....oh yeah....and the support deparment must know something more than how to spell dns! LOL Any suggestions are very much appreciated! Cheers, Brian K. Garel brian-hkt3R1SlsOrYtjvyW6yDsg at public.gmane.org "It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid, than to open it and remove all doubt." -Mark Twain ----------------------------------------- Original Message: From: Madison Kelly <linux-5ZoueyuiTZhBDgjK7y7TUQ at public.gmane.org> To: tlug-lxSQFCZeNF4 at public.gmane.org Sent: Sun Aug 31 12:26:21 EDT 2003 Subject: Re: [TLUG]: Help With Home Server When you register your domain (domain.com/ca) you will have to specify which DNS servers will have the zone of authority (ZOA, IIRC). Whatever that server specifies is what will go. I do not believe you -have- to tell Istop, as they should see that domain as a seperate entity from what they have recorded (jay.tor.istop.com) You can have multiple DNS names for one machine. All this said, please differ if someone answers with more authority than I. Madison Jay wrote: > Hi all... > > Several months ago I asked for recommendations on an ISP that will allow > you to run a server of the connection. I eventually chose istop.com. Now > I have a DNS question. My IP resolved to jay.tor.istop.com.Now my > questions :-) > > Do I ask them to change that to my hostname (hostname.domain.ca). > > When I purchase my domain, do I set up the DNS information to point to > the istop nameserver, or do I point it to my server and run (for > example) Bind? > > Thanks > > Jay -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using DeskNow Lite - Free mail & collaboration server http://www.desknow.com -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Help With Home Server
by linux-5ZoueyuiTZhBDgjK7y7TUQ＠public.gmane.org 31 Aug '03

31 Aug '03

When you register your domain (domain.com/ca) you will have to specify which DNS servers will have the zone of authority (ZOA, IIRC). Whatever that server specifies is what will go. I do not believe you -have- to tell Istop, as they should see that domain as a seperate entity from what they have recorded (jay.tor.istop.com) You can have multiple DNS names for one machine. All this said, please differ if someone answers with more authority than I. Madison Jay wrote: > Hi all... > > Several months ago I asked for recommendations on an ISP that will allow > you to run a server of the connection. I eventually chose istop.com. Now > I have a DNS question. My IP resolved to jay.tor.istop.com.Now my > questions :-) > > Do I ask them to change that to my hostname (hostname.domain.ca). > > When I purchase my domain, do I set up the DNS information to point to > the istop nameserver, or do I point it to my server and run (for > example) Bind? > > Thanks > > Jay -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Help With Home Server
by jay-Zd07PnzKK1IAvxtiuMwx3w＠public.gmane.org 31 Aug '03

31 Aug '03

Hi all... Several months ago I asked for recommendations on an ISP that will allow you to run a server of the connection. I eventually chose istop.com. Now I have a DNS question. My IP resolved to jay.tor.istop.com.Now my questions :-) Do I ask them to change that to my hostname (hostname.domain.ca). When I purchase my domain, do I set up the DNS information to point to the istop nameserver, or do I point it to my server and run (for example) Bind? Thanks Jay

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ISP Suggestions...(was Re: Re:Help With Home Server)
by kareem-d+8TeBu5bOew5LPnMra/2Q＠public.gmane.org 31 Aug '03

31 Aug '03

On Sun, 2003-08-31 at 13:55, Brian K Garel wrote: > Hi All, > > I am looking to stop giving Ted Roger$ all my money and was looking around for a decent service. I saw Jay mention istop.com and was curious if anyone else has any other suggestions. I'm up in Newmarket so I should have access to pretty much anything. Keys here are Price, reliability, and they don't care if you're running servers.....oh yeah....and the support deparment must know something more than how to spell dns! LOL > > Any suggestions are very much appreciated! > > Cheers, > > Brian K. Garel > brian-hkt3R1SlsOrYtjvyW6yDsg at public.gmane.org > > "It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid, than to open it and remove all doubt." > -Mark Twain I've had great experience with Sentex. Great support, good prices, and excellent reliability. Check it out at: http://www.sentex.net Kareem -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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ISP Suggestions...(was Re: Re:Help With Home Server)
by kareem-d+8TeBu5bOew5LPnMra/2Q＠public.gmane.org 31 Aug '03

31 Aug '03

On Sun, 2003-08-31 at 13:55, Brian K Garel wrote: > Hi All, > > I am looking to stop giving Ted Roger$ all my money and was looking around for a decent service. I saw Jay mention istop.com and was curious if anyone else has any other suggestions. I'm up in Newmarket so I should have access to pretty much anything. Keys here are Price, reliability, and they don't care if you're running servers.....oh yeah....and the support deparment must know something more than how to spell dns! LOL > > Any suggestions are very much appreciated! > > Cheers, > > Brian K. Garel > brian-hkt3R1SlsOrYtjvyW6yDsg at public.gmane.org > > "It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid, than to open it and remove all doubt." > -Mark Twain I've had great experience with Sentex. Great support, good prices, and excellent reliability. Check it out at: http://www.sentex.net Kareem -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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SCO has valid case
by dstubbs-ZsETY1VsSgK5ibTBNBZY+dUNXN58jlyp＠public.gmane.org 30 Aug '03

30 Aug '03

> BTW... and this is entirely speculation... what happens to software if > the > copyright owner is defunct? It's not like SCO is going to leave a will or > an estate. Is it at this point that M$ buys the ...what? ...copyrights? > ...SCO? outright for nothing in a short stock trade? Remember this? > > NOW it's getting interesting! This might be very very important. SCO is pretty much a starving, almost-dead, shrivelled, emaciated near-corpse and for all that, is making quite a racket. They haven't been able to ship a compelling product in years. Any time I've ever had to support SCO Unix I've hated it. ALL of the other UNIXes are much more amenable to easy administration, and a lot more of the usual tools you'd expect are there. Anyway, what happens if SCO folds up and goes out of business? How bad would it be if Microsoft bought the leftovers of SCO and decided to continue the fight, just for fun? Could Microsoft afford to litigate Linux into oblivion? At least in the US anyway? Finally, would it be possible to get concerned Linux users together to buy SCO? Or at least to buy the scraps if they folded up? Maybe then we could officially bequeath UNIX to the public domain... If each angry concerned Linux user out there put $100 into this cause, could we do it? Dave... -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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SCO.com and Caldera.com dead
by dstubbs-ZsETY1VsSgK5ibTBNBZY+dUNXN58jlyp＠public.gmane.org 30 Aug '03

30 Aug '03

Rick Tomaschuk wrote: > While I hate to keep taking SCO's side in things since I fully support > the Linux movement I don't think any of SCO's long time customers care > wheather or not SCO's web site is up or not since Openserver has some > machines with verified uptimes of 5, 10 and 17+ years without reboot. > If any machine is repeatedly attacked by professionals it will crash. > RickT > > Interesting! Especially since Openserver has barely been around for 5 years, let alone 10 and 17+ years. -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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St. Christopher House web page needs alt tags, was RE: Learning PHP
by andzy-bYF1QM81rroS+FvcfC7Uqw＠public.gmane.org 30 Aug '03

30 Aug '03

On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 22:20:15 -0400 (EDT), "Max Blanco" <blanco-S8qYAnHmZTt34ZA5RureAJ4VBq8PJc8F at public.gmane.org> said: > On Fri, 29 Aug 2003, Andrew Malcolmson wrote: > > > BTW: how does an ALT tag display in a text browser? > > <p> > <img src="foo.jpg" alt="[bar]"> > </p> > > looks like this in lynx: > > [bar] > > > Also: this looks a lot better in links (aka elinks) than in lynx. Didn't > > try w3m. > > elinks??? whazzat? is it javascript enabled? > Links was a text web browser project. Elinks is a fork of links but is now accepted as a replacement for links. It does table layout (though no javascript) so it's really much more suitable for browsing modern web pages than lynx. The Debian package name is 'links-ssl' ------------------- Andrew Malcolmson -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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